“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”
More fear porn of EV’s.
ev’s are not being charged at gas stations only. Most EV charging station in the US are now at home and many are being put in at restaurants, grocery stores, hotels, malls, theme parks where people do their shopping while their car is being charged.
A charging station is a selling point to get people into their stores.
A local superduper market installed a charging station about 6 months ago. I have yet to see anyone using it.
Recharging at residential electricity rates. Something I don't think the electric utility hasn't noticed.
Thinking along the same line. Large parking lots.
Joni Mitchell - Big Yellow Taxi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2595abcvh2M
“They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot
Don’t it always seem to go
That you don’t know what you’ve got
Till it’s gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
They took all the trees
Put ‘em in a tree museum
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see ‘em “
“A charging station is a selling point to get people into their stores.”
How much does this free incentive to shop cost the store? And what in the heck makes you think everyone WANTS to stop and shop? What will my motel charge me to recharge my car battery overnight? And where does that electricity come from when western countries are cutting power production?
Ultimately, EVs are NOT “emission free”. They are “Displaced emission vehicles”.
and you think the grid can handle the draw regardless of where it’s coming from?
or that we have the power generation capacity?
or the rare minerals required for the battery?
So far the only public chargers I’ve seen are at convenience stores.
Uh sure. Like the ones in front of Dunkin Donuts. I have NEVER seen a car charging there. Not once. It makes me very curious when someone on my side spouts this prattle.
“ More fear porn of EV’s.”
Comparable arguments were made about digital cameras, credit cards, voicemail, cellphones, email, and a myriad of new tech. Lots of persuasive reasons to not adopt new tech … then nearly everyone adopted them seemingly overnight.
Yes EVs aren’t ideal for all uses everywhere in all cases, but they’re rapidly improving and are reaching the point where deficiencies are eclipsed by benefits.
How many apartment complexes are you aware of that offer charging stations?
Where?
You actually think somebody is going to leave their car plugged into a charging station while they spend a day at a theme park or for an hour and a half at a mall?
That's like parking in a gas station with the gas hose left in your car while you go shopping. Meanwhile, every Tom, Dick and Harry decides to drive up and put that ole nozzle in their car and fill up and drive away, leaving you with the bill for not only your gas but theirs.
Ain't gonna happen.
Imagine the mess of electric cables. Not practical.
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Okay, but that still doesn’t address the additional power requirements. Two to three times as many power plants as currently exist will need to be built.
Will they get to be close to the door like handicapped parking?
I agree, this is the way of the future.
In extremely rural areas, I have seen pics of charging stations but they have to have generators running to feed them, since they are so remote.
I had a freaking epiphany, I think I’m gonna make a million off this.
Check it. You get a trailer and you put the generator on the trailer, then, you hook the electric to the charging station on the front of the trailer. Then, you connect the car to the charging station, and you can recharge WHILE YOU DRIVE!
I’m also thinking about putting a windmill on the trailer too... but that will be v2.
Good luck with those road trips. I guess you have to stay in a hotel with a charging station every 300 miles.
EV apologists always make one flawed assumption, which is that everyone only uses their cars to commute or take short trips within cities. That’s east coast, urban corridor thinking. And please explain what happens after we eliminate “fossil fuels” and the next hurricane comes through Florida or the Gulf Coast, or an earthquake or major fire hits California. Power is typically out over huge areas for weeks after those events. Want to use a generator to get by? Oops, sorry, the EV enthusiasts decided FOR YOU that you can’t have fuel for those anymore. You say your EV battery is now dead because you needed to get around during the disaster? Gee, sorry about that, but if it makes you feel better I hear the electric ambulances, police cars, and fire engines died long before your car did, so at least there’s that. Which reminds me, you might want to be careful as you’re waiting in the dark to make sure you don’t stumble over anything and hurt yourself, given all the dead emergency “E-vehicles.”
Of course, if you do have a sudden medical emergency they could always send a helicopter for you. Might want to find out what that will cost first, though, because now that only aircraft and certain heavy vehicles that can’t be electrified use “fossil fuel”, the cost of that fuel has risen astronomically, along with the cost of thousands of everyday products that are manufactured from the hydrocarbons derived from it. It used to be a commodity, but now it’s a niche “boutique” fuel, and is priced accordingly.
Enjoy the brave new world!
Yes unless you are traveling any distance. And up to this reset many were.
How many people are going to spend more then a couple of hours in all of the establishments you have listed just to charge a battery??