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The Oral Arguments on Biden's Vaccine Mandate Were a Total Disaster
Townhall ^ | January 7, 2022 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 01/07/2022 2:54:28 PM PST by Hostage

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To: Hostage

USSR comes to USA.


Years ago perhaps that might be true foe something back then.

Now its Met Emperor Xi. The US becomes Mao’s China.


41 posted on 01/07/2022 3:55:05 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Cobra64
They aren't stupid, they're evil. They know exactly what they are doing - they are executing a plan. Our side? Not so much.
42 posted on 01/07/2022 4:05:09 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (It's becoming more difficult to tell the difference between a RINO and a Marxist.)
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To: Hostage

The “WIDE LATINO” is DUMB! SUPREMELY DUMB! Scalia is rolling over in his grave!


43 posted on 01/07/2022 4:06:46 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: BenLurkin
"OSHA needs to be eliminated."

Along with all the other alphabet agencies that torment our lives.

"He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent them hither swarms of officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance." - Thomas Jefferson

44 posted on 01/07/2022 4:14:47 PM PST by SkiKnee
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To: Hostage

The Wide Latina is dumb as punch.


45 posted on 01/07/2022 4:19:59 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: fruser1

Yes. She was testifying, without the ability of being criss examined. And she lied, to boot.

Thomas must be shaking his head.


46 posted on 01/07/2022 4:21:03 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: Captain7seas

From the little that I read, I would agree with you. The plaintiffs’ attorneys under-performed, and did not use the best arguments. Frankly, I don’t think they care because they did not act like it. Let’s hope their briefs are better than their oral arguments and at least one of the three (Cave-in-naugh, ACB, and snake Roberts) are persuaded.

Because it is well-known that party-loyalist Kagan, leftist Souter and the wise Latina are going to do whatever the demonkkkraps’ and major media’s position is, attorney needs to be very pointed and short in responding. Nothing attorney says will convince them. And Attorney’s oral argument time is limited. When the wise latina started spouting false facts, all a PREPARED attorney would have to say is “With all due respect Mdm Justice, that isn’t in the record.” and then move on. It never ceases to amaze me how many attorneys do not know their case.


47 posted on 01/07/2022 4:42:42 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: hanamizu

You are very wise indeed. I wish you were arguing the case today.


48 posted on 01/07/2022 4:46:50 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: Jim Noble

Xiden isn’t doing away with anything.

Despite Xiden’s position to the contrary, they are applying the statute into an area Congress’ did not put into the statute. And even if Congress did put it in the statute, then the question would be whether it is constitutional. If you really want to see what the demonkkkraps think about the issue, if the roles were reversed and Trump were trying to do this ... the demonkkkraps would be against it as unconstitutional. The anti-demonkkkraps** would continue to be against it.

(** - I am moving away from calling people on the political right “conservatives”, because the way things have been run for over 5 decades, and maybe more, I don’t want to conserve any of it.)


49 posted on 01/07/2022 4:54:38 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: SoCal Pubbie

and why will illegals NEVER be expected to get the jab


50 posted on 01/07/2022 5:01:37 PM PST by SisterK (recognize and resist tyranny)
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To: usurper
If the Covid pandemic is truly an existential threat, then why do they leave our Southern border wide open?

7,000 each and every night coming in unchecked. How many are infected??

This makes sense if the goal is to destabilize the country and make it easier for the Great Reset to be implemented. Otherwise it makes no sense at all.
51 posted on 01/07/2022 5:06:59 PM PST by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

Keep in mind that oral arguments are a total waste of time. CLARENCE Thomas outlined this in his autobiography when he explained why he rarely ever asks questions during these oral arguments. Basically, he said U.S. Supreme Court cases have so many legal briefs entered that there’s no reason to ask any questions at all. Every argument has been laid out and litigated endlessly before the oral arguments are held.


52 posted on 01/07/2022 5:14:20 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: Susquehanna Patriot
Xiden isn’t doing away with anything.

I was answering a poster who said, "The next President should do away with OSHA", pointing out that a President who serves under Article II cannot do any such thing.

Now, full disclosure - it's my opinion that there is a 50/50 chance that our current situation cannot be turned around under the terms of the 1788 Constitution, as amended, and that a President (or whatever) will come to power not bound by those rules.

But an elected President governing under Article II and subject to removal by Congress cannot eliminate OSHA, nor any of the other swarms of officers sent hither to harass us and eat out our substance.

53 posted on 01/07/2022 5:14:32 PM PST by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: deek69

Alito is one of the good guys, in my opinion.


54 posted on 01/07/2022 5:29:25 PM PST by livius
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To: hanamizu

Vaccine mandates: Supreme Court has upheld state and localhttps://www.cnn.com › 2021/12/29 › politics › supreme-c...

Dec 29, 2021 — A Supreme Court that has declined to block several types of vaccine mandates is now considering whether to allow the Biden administration to ...

Jacobson v. Massachusetts :: 197 US 11 (1905) - Justia US ...https://supreme.justia.com › cases › federal
A state may enact a compulsory vaccination law, since the legislature has the discretion to decide whether vaccination is the best way to prevent smallpox ...

Jacobson v. Massachusetts - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Jacobson_v._Massach...
Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court upheld the authority of states to enforce ...


55 posted on 01/07/2022 6:03:00 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Nietzsche: “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything the State has. It was stolen!”)
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To: Grampa Dave

Kind of my point. States may well have the power to impose vaccine mandates, but not the Federal government.

As I recall, the Jacobson case involved a fine of $5 imposed when he refused a small pox vaccination. SCOTUS did not say that he had to take the vaccine, but rather the town, acting under a state law, could fine him.

The Founders never intended for the Federal government (President or Congress) to have this kind of power over American citizens. Take a quick look at the enumerated powers (Article 1, Section 8) and see if you can find anything remotely looking like the power to impose medical procedures on people.

It’s also worth noting that small pox was quite contagious and had a fairly high mortality rate and that even in 1905 the small pox vaccine was well known to prevent infection and subsequent contagion. Not quite the case for the China virus vaccines.

This is not to say that a creative liberal judge won’t find something hiding in a ‘penumbra’ somewhere, but it really just isn’t in there.


56 posted on 01/07/2022 6:26:19 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: Hostage

I used to think the Supremes were wise; they are not; only well connected.


57 posted on 01/07/2022 7:18:31 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ( "The media is the enemy of the American people." Democrat Pat Caddell.)
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To: usurper

“If the Covid pandemic is truly an existential threat, then why do they leave our Sothern border wide open?”

Not only that, IF this virus is as dangerous as these “experts” claim, then why aren’t these disposable masks treated as a biohazard and disposed as such?


58 posted on 01/07/2022 7:29:43 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: Hostage

I will repeat what my court expert, Zen Master, told me last night. (So far, he has yet to be wrong).

“Both mandates will go down, probably 6-3. I can’t vouch for Roberts, so they might be 5-4. I’m done with Roberts.”


59 posted on 01/08/2022 6:36:59 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: fruser1

It was as if there were no legal arguments presented and it was all rehash of what newscasters think.


60 posted on 01/08/2022 6:43:49 AM PST by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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