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SCOTUS Oral Argument Audio (Vaccine Mandates) LIVE THREAD [2nd case starts at reply 279]
SCOTUS ^ | 01/07/2022 | SCOTUS

Posted on 01/07/2022 6:16:44 AM PST by TexasGurl24

Two cases will be argued today beginning at 10.

National Federation of Independent Business v. Department of Labor (OSHA Mandate)

and Biden v. Missouri (Healthcare mandate)

Audio here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cms; covid; healthcare; ivermectin; mandates; osha; scotus; vaccine; wuhanflu
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To: katieanna

If this is the guy who is arguing against the mandate, then we’re doomed.


121 posted on 01/07/2022 7:57:46 AM PST by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: TexasGurl24

122 posted on 01/07/2022 7:57:56 AM PST by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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To: TexasGurl24
Kagan, Breyer, Sotomayor and Roberts are asking shrill and emotionally based outcome questions.

I would argue that all four are political performance artists, not actual judges at all. They do what the swamp tells them to do. Sometimes, they are better and pretending to be thoughtful. Today, since the cameras are on, they have opted to go full-Kabuki.
123 posted on 01/07/2022 7:58:07 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: CAluvdubya

If it’s a solid 5 against the mandate expect Roberts to switch to the majority so that he can write the opinion narrowly.


124 posted on 01/07/2022 7:58:16 AM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: TexasGurl24

Obese women seem to be very over the top about Covid. Perhaps because they know they are a trailer and Covid is the tornado.


125 posted on 01/07/2022 7:58:41 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Alberta's Child

It most certainly is about individual liberty. Doing it in a twisted way, making someone else mandate it, still effects your individual liberty.

All the ‘young’ folks have been conditioned by ‘government’ education to believe the government can do anything to you it wants to, and the non-elected governmental bodies too.

This is fundamental individual liberty. Your body and right to work and move freely.


126 posted on 01/07/2022 7:58:52 AM PST by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: usnavy_cop_retired
a match could start a fire... a meteor could start a fire... and dragon from ancient times could reawaken through a portal of dark energy and start a fire...

Where the hell do the what ifs end?

A ridiculous line of premise.

127 posted on 01/07/2022 8:00:12 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: P-Marlowe

I don’t agree. We are not doomed. Keep your faith high and continue to PRAY


128 posted on 01/07/2022 8:00:19 AM PST by katieanna
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To: Alberta's Child

That was the reasoning behind mandatory drug tests as a condition of employment.

Soon it will be mandatory birth control as a condition of employment


129 posted on 01/07/2022 8:00:33 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Breyer’s question about whether OSHA can regulate any risk didn’t go well for him.


130 posted on 01/07/2022 8:01:16 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: TornadoAlley3

Research has proven Obese people are likely to die or get very sick from Covid.

OSHA needs to force weight lost programs on Obese Americans in workplaces with above 100 employees.


131 posted on 01/07/2022 8:02:00 AM PST by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: justme4now

If Kagan truly thinks that getting vaccinated is the best way to stop the spread of COVID, I would suggest that she look at Google and compare the case rate in January of last year versus this year. She’s either willfully lying, or a complete fool.


132 posted on 01/07/2022 8:02:23 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: All

they let this stand, then yes, they can impose ANYTHING.
We are CATTLE.


133 posted on 01/07/2022 8:02:57 AM PST by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: TexasGurl24
Now the unvaccinated are a danger to the unvaccinated...

My lucky rock doesn't work unless you buyy a lucky rock too.

Lunacy.

This is a simple matter of constitutionality. Period. And the mandates are unconstitutional.

134 posted on 01/07/2022 8:03:44 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: Antoninus

SCOTUS is a fact-free and logic-free zone. Outcome first, then develop a line of reasoning using whatever facts and leaps of reasoning get to that outcome. Use lots of words and platitudes when composing the opinion.


135 posted on 01/07/2022 8:04:25 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Antoninus

Kagan’s long argument about “low risk doesn’t mean no risk” was just criticized by council Fisher(?) as being “irrational”. It’s rare to have an attorney in this room bite back like that!


136 posted on 01/07/2022 8:05:20 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Antoninus

SICKENING. I am so mad about this.
They are not arguing if it is CONSTITUTIONAL!
They are arguing if they like the idea of people taking the drug or not.


137 posted on 01/07/2022 8:05:32 AM PST by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Attorney is named Flowers, not Fisher.


138 posted on 01/07/2022 8:06:25 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: TianaHighrider

Kagan, Soto and Breyer don’t give a dam* about people when they approve wholesale of literally KILLING infants without batting an eye. A DISGRACE


139 posted on 01/07/2022 8:06:30 AM PST by katieanna
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To: TianaHighrider
-- We are CATTLE. --

That is actual the fact of the matter. We are viewed, by the government, as chattle property. All this debate is about how to best care for the herd. Individual liberty does not factor in at all.

140 posted on 01/07/2022 8:06:43 AM PST by Cboldt
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