Posted on 12/03/2021 10:37:35 AM PST by rktman
Actor Alec Baldwin told ABC News' George Stephanopoulos while he is sad over accidentally killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on a movie set with a prop gun, he does not have any guilt over the incident because he is not responsible.
"No. No. I feel that someone is responsible for what happened and I can’t say who that is, but I know it’s not me," Baldwin said.
"What do we come out of this learning? What changes can be made? This is a one-in-a-billion that someone puts a real bullet in a gun and that never happens," Baldwin added. He wants the official investigation to find out who brought real bullets onto the set.
Baldwin further stated he is not worried about being criminally charged over the incident.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
How do you know that he had the trigger pulled? You and metmom should read reply #66. This guy has been on many Baldwin threads and seems to know what he's talking about. If nothing else, view the video. It shows proof how an original or replica can go off when half-cocked if not having a transfer plate. I despise Baldwin as much as anyone, but it's looking more like the armorer was at fault.
The armorer has some responsibility, but the poster in #66 knows nothing about the laws of the state of NM. Actually ignores them for his own continued attempt to excuse Baldwin from his negligent homicide.
Yes - according to the film industry standard "Safety Bulletin #1".
However, the actor does have the right to request and watch the Armorer verify the condition of the weapon. The actor is not required to do so.
Remember that "Safety Bulletin #1" is not a law, it is part of long-established procedures in the film industry. State laws may override industry practices and standards.
Most importantly, what was a live round doing on a movie set?
This is clearly the fault of the Armorer. It was her responsibility to maintain control of all weapons and all ammunition at all times. She failed to do so and on multiple occasions.
There was no requirement for live rounds in any scene, and by standard industry practice, no live rounds should have ever been permitted on the set.
Allegedly, live rounds were brought on to the set and the pistols were used for target practice by certain cast or crew members during off hours. This claim has already been made in the civil suits. It would not necessarily be a criminal violation, but certainly would be a violation of standard industry safety practices.
Seems to me the armorer and whoever brought that live round to the set are going to take the fall.
The Armorer will likely be punished in some way. She is a nobody without substantial assets or political connections. If anybody goes to jail, she will be the one.
The people involved in "target practice" using live rounds on previous days might be identified and sanctioned.
Those folks have no money and are basically "judgement-proof" in civil suites.
They are keeping their mouths firmly shut, probably on the advice of their lawyers.
But Alec Baldwin keeps running his mouth. And he has a personal fortune estimated at $60M dollars. As Producer, he has managerial responsibility and liability for safety practices that were flagrantly ignored on his authority.
Let the games play on!
That may be some industry standard, but if criminal charges are filed, it wont stand up to NM law. The jury will be instructed to judge based on the law, not some memo put out by Hollywood.
I have posted this three times today already. here it is again all the definitions included.
30-7-4. Negligent use of a deadly weapon.
A. Negligent use of a deadly weapon consists of:
(1) discharging a firearm into any building or vehicle or so as to knowingly endanger a person or his property;
(2) carrying a firearm while under the influence of an intoxicant or narcotic;
(3) endangering the safety of another by handling or using a firearm or other deadly weapon in a negligent manner; or
(4) discharging a firearm within one hundred fifty yards of a dwelling or building, not including abandoned or vacated buildings on public lands during hunting seasons, without the permission of the owner or lessees thereof.
30-2-3. Manslaughter.
Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice.
A. Voluntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed upon a sudden quarrel or in the heat of passion.
Whoever commits voluntary manslaughter is guilty of a third degree felony resulting in the death of a human being.
B. Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection.
Whoever commits involuntary manslaughter is guilty of a fourth degree felony.
The SOB is guilty as sin! He had the gun in his hand and was playing around with the hammer and a round fired? Doesn’t make any difference if he pulled the trigger or not. He was doing something that a seasoned gun handler would never do, point it at someone. There is only one time when a handler does that and that is when he wants to shoot someone or something! Period..
Freakin asshat. At first, when it FIRST happened, I actually felt sorry for him. Now? Grow a freaking pair.
Calls to mind Judge Judy's retort: "Your feelings don't matter ... they're irrelevant."
Baldwin should have checked the gun when it was handed to him and not pointed it at someone.
He’s doing far too much blame shifting and rationalizing for me to think that he doesn’t somehow, deep down inside, feel responsible for her death.
And yes, others are involved and culpable, but ultimately, if he had followed BASIC firearm safety guidelines, she would be alive today.
I would expect nothing less. The law should be superior to "industry standards", however well-intentioned they may be.
Industry standards and practices will make a difference in civil suits claiming negligence resulting in death or injury. And those have already started.
There is a mighty big "IF" in assuming there will be a criminal indictment no matter what the law says. Some nasty political currents have been stirred up.
I would like to see Baldwin held to the letter of the law and prosecuted for Involuntary Manslaughter due to Negligent Use of a Deadly Weapon.
But then again, I do not work for the District Attorney's office and have no official say in the matter.
We need that.
Yep, you need a proper DA for the system to work. Thats clearly been a problem lately.
Welcome
And do the world some good.
George Stephanopoulos is the go to network salesman for any leftist Politician or Hollywood actor that wants to sell and fabricate a false narrative to clear their name, story....
Reminds me of the SNL skit where they were doing a prison play and Belushi was up for try outs, and theywere readying his rap sheet saying that he was in for life for killing 12 members of his family with a shotgun on Thanks giving. And Belushi said “hey it wasn’t my fault. I was cleaning the gun and it accidentally went of.” He shot the cinematographer. They were shooting a scene. She filmed her own murder. Play it Alec. Prove you didn’t do it.
Hickock in the video never causes his single action pistols to go off "half cocked" in the video because he does not want to break the half cock notch on his trigger. I don't think Baldwin hit the hammer with it resting on a primer either. My real Colt SAA made in 1896 will not fire by merely pulling the hammer back. You have to have the trigger pulled to the rear before pulling the hammer fully back. If you let the hammer go before it is all the way to the rear the hammer the round in the cylinder won't be aligned with the firing pin. Modern single action revolvers with transfer bars have no "half cocked" position. They will also shoot if you hold the trigger to the rear and "fan" the hammer. I also am assuming that Baldwin is telling the truth about how the pistol went off. BTW, having read the aforementioned post I have probably forgotten more about how firearms work than #66 will ever know.
I’m not arguing anything about NM law. I’m just trying to understand how the gun went off.
It was a perfect storm, but I still put the blame on the young woman armorer. She had one very important job and she failed to do it.
It's my understanding that actors are not required to check the gun when told "cold gun". Even if he did, would he know the difference between a live round and dummy round or a blank? I'm not trying to defend the SOB, just trying to understand how the gun went off with a live round.
Bottom line: There should never been a live round on set. And even if some crew used it to go plinking, the armorer lost chain of custody. She is the most responsible.
I've read that this was a rehearsal. The cinematographer instructed Baldwin where to aim and to pull the hammer back. Even if he didn't go half cocked locking the sear and cylinder in place, I've read that if he just let go of the hammer the cylinder would reverse to original position and light off the round due to spring tension. Is that true?
Again, not defending that SOB, just trying to understand how single action revolvers work and how they can go off without pulling the trigger. I inherited a double action Colt .38 and it's entirely a different action. It's more like 1/3 cocked with cylinder partially cycled. Full cocked is the only way to get to the next round.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.