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The sinister nature of electric car
American Thinker ^ | 12/2/2021 | Jerold Levoritz

Posted on 12/02/2021 6:41:10 AM PST by Tell It Right

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To: Red Badger

To be clear, California banned the sale of new gas posted yard equipment. But you’re right, the goal is to outlaw replacement parts and eventually the fuel to operate internal combustion engines.


21 posted on 12/02/2021 7:24:26 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ridesthemiles

Volt not Bolt.


22 posted on 12/02/2021 7:25:43 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: Tell It Right

Excerpt of testimony of Robert Bryce to a House Committee.

The history of EVs is a century of failure after failure. In 1911, the New York Times said the electric car “has long been recognized as the ideal solution.” In 1990, the California Air Resources Board mandated 10% of car sales be zero-emission vehicles by 2003. Today, 31 years later, only about 6% of the cars in California have an electric plug.

The average household income for EV buyers is about $140,000. That’s roughly two times the U.S. average. And yet, federal EV tax credits force low- and middle-income taxpayers to subsidize the higher income EV owners.

Lower-income Americans are facing huge electric rate increases for grid upgrades to accommodate EVs even though they will probably never own one.

This month, the California Energy Commission estimated the state will need 1.3 million new public EV chargers by 2030. The likely cost to ratepayers: about $13 billion.

Powerful lobby groups want Congress to spend billions on electrification schemes that will impose regressive taxes on low-income Americans, reduce our resilience, and increase reliance on China; a dubious trifecta.

Let’s amplify that last point: reliance on electric vehicles will put our future squarely in the hands of the Chinese Communist Party.

The manufacture of EVs is not sustainable. Mining for lithium and cobalt, and the disposal of batteries is horribly harmful to the environment. For owners, replacement of batteries every few years will cost $5 - $15 thousand or more.

Chips? A typical Ford Mustang will have 300 or so. A Tesla will have over three thousand.

EVs are coal powered; let’s not kid ourselves. Most electric grids are powered by coal, some by natural gas, and fewer by nuclear.

Next time somebody tries to tell you these things are green...


23 posted on 12/02/2021 7:26:33 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Tell It Right

The cheapest EV cars will be much more expensive than ICE cars. They will also be more expensive, and difficult to fix. Their useful life will be shorter.

Once again, the poor and working class will be harmed.


24 posted on 12/02/2021 7:27:05 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Tell It Right

Don’t forget the human and environmental cost of electric cars.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium-batteries-environment-impact

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4764208/Child-miners-aged-four-living-hell-Earth.html


25 posted on 12/02/2021 7:30:57 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Do we value what the Revolutionary War vets gave us enough to fight for it?)
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To: Redleg Duke
My 73 Olds Omega (Chevy Nova twin) had an inline 6, 3-in-the-tree manual transmission, manual steering/brakes. I chose that as an "overreaction" to an incident with an Olds Vista Cruiser station wagon. It had a V8, auto transmission, power steering/brakes. I found myself approaching an intersection at 40 MPH. The light was going red. The battery cable popped off. Dead engine, brakes and steering. I had seconds to regain my composure, jam on the emergency brake and pull the steering wheel hard right around the corner. Damn used car was a maintenance nightmare. I would take that 73 Omega back in a heartbeat.
26 posted on 12/02/2021 7:38:59 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Chauncey Gardiner
I'm not making a "green" case for an individual to buy an EV to save the world from cow farts or whatever.

I'm making a case for fellow libertarian minded people to have both a gas car and an EV car as a hedge in case the Dims try to control our mobility with one option or the other.

27 posted on 12/02/2021 7:40:34 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red Badger

Under normal circumstances I would find your post a little depressing. However, having a life shortening adverse reaction to the vaxxine, any plans I had for reaching 2040 are probably not valid.

So I got that going for me.


28 posted on 12/02/2021 7:44:35 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: MattMusson

Yep. For the “super charge” station that will recharge a Tesla in an hour, you will need a 48OV,3 phase power outlet. Service stations that recharge them will draw a tremendous amount of current. Now imagine how many vehicles get gasoline in an hour at a mid-sized gas station? I’ll bet it is 100 easily. And they are in and out in 10 minutes. Now, make the wait to recharge an hour. So at any given time, you will have at least 100 vehicles charging, which will draw TREMENDOUS amounts of electricity. I would bet that it is around 4 to 6 Megawatts.

Even my small town has at probably 25 such stations and countless smaller ones. Then the math says that the charging stations alone will draw 200-400 Mega watts per small-medium town. A typical coal fired power plant makes about 1000 Megawatts of power. This means that the power grid will require HUNDREDS of new power plants.

And how many RELIABLE energy sources are there being built? Answer: ZERO. In fact they are taking RELIABLE energy sources OFFLINE.


29 posted on 12/02/2021 7:50:46 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Do we value what the Revolutionary War vets gave us enough to fight for it?)
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To: Cold Heart

Well, at least you won’t die of Climate Change, so there’s that............................


30 posted on 12/02/2021 7:51:27 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Right Brother

Is the ‘plug in’ cost nominal?


31 posted on 12/02/2021 7:54:35 AM PST by M_Continuum
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To: Tell It Right

“Long live carburetors!”

Personally, I’d rather stick with fuel injection.


32 posted on 12/02/2021 7:56:02 AM PST by Signalman (HA)
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To: Signalman

Carb tuning is an art form.

As much as I don’t like absurd amounts of electronics in vehicles, fuel injection is so much better.


33 posted on 12/02/2021 8:09:40 AM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

—”Just don’t park the EV in your garage or you’ll lose the gas car and possibly the garage (and house)”

My neighbor’s two-week-old ICE car caught fire inside his garage and took out the other car and house...

I do not recall it being on the news?


34 posted on 12/02/2021 8:11:06 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Red Badger

“Their ultimate goal is NO GASOLINE/NATURAL GAS/DIESEL ENGINES ALLOWED PERIOD!”

I think the ultimate goal is almost everyone living in mud huts and subject to starvation if the turnip crop fails. Just like Mother Nature intended.


35 posted on 12/02/2021 8:11:13 AM PST by beef (The Chinese have a little secret—diversity is _not_ a strength.)
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To: Rappini

Does anybody have the plans to put a 12v71 in a Chevy Volt?


36 posted on 12/02/2021 8:13:31 AM PST by Cowman
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To: beef

Take heart!
Capitalism will find a way. It always does.

It may take a generation or so, but I believe technology will ultimately surpass the current (pun) level.

Batteries will be rechargeable in less than 15 minutes, have a 500 mile range at interstate speeds and last for the mechanical life of the car, 200k-300k miles.

It will be competition among the world’s auto manufacturer’s for your money that drives it.................


37 posted on 12/02/2021 8:17:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: ridesthemiles

__”I had NO IDEA that Chevy Bolt only goes about 55 miles on a charge....”

His is the Bolt hybrid, after the battery runs low the gasoline engine fires up...

And depending on the cost of electricity in the area can work out favorablely, and the long-term TCO is way less than ICE.

Around here most all of the taxis are Prius hybrids.


38 posted on 12/02/2021 8:18:29 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT
I do not recall it being on the news?

Car fires happen, whether gas or electric. One of my sisters lost a car to a fire about 30 years ago. But I don't see warnings like this for gas cars: GM advising some Bolt EV owners to park 50 feet away from other cars in case of fire. The warning follows GM recalling more than 140,000 of the EVs due to the risk of batteries spontaneously catching fire.

39 posted on 12/02/2021 8:18:46 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: Red Badger

—”They’ll just have to get a longer extension cord...”

My neighbor had a massive tree blowdown.
The tree removal service used all battery saws except for the giant saw, when cutting the trunk.

They said the battery saws are great because of less noise and they keep spare hot batteries.


40 posted on 12/02/2021 8:27:59 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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