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The sinister nature of electric car
American Thinker ^ | 12/2/2021 | Jerold Levoritz

Posted on 12/02/2021 6:41:10 AM PST by Tell It Right

The Democrats are doing everything they can to get Americans into electric cars. However, those cars come with the risk of a serious loss of power — not just for the car, but for those who buy those cars.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; cars; control; ev
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My take:

I usually agree 100% with American Thinker. But this time I agree 50%. IMHO, if you're married and have to have two cars anyway, why not have both an EV and a gas car? If the big gubment Dims control us through electricity availability, at least you'll have a gas car. If the Dims control us with oil/gas availability (like they're slowly doing to us more and more), at least you'll have an EV.

If you're married (read: if you need two cars anyway), why not have one of each and make it harder for the Dims to limit our mobility. Likewise with the benefits of the two types of cars: for long trips use the gas car more often than the EV, for everyday commuting to work or running around chores use the EV more than the gas car.

1 posted on 12/02/2021 6:41:10 AM PST by Tell It Right
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To: Tell It Right

Just don’t park the EV in your garage or you’ll lose the gas car and possibly the garage (and house) if the EV battery explodes.


2 posted on 12/02/2021 6:43:37 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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"If you're married (read: if you need two cars anyway), why not have one of each and make it harder for the Dims to limit our mobility."

Wouldn't two plug in hybrids be even better?

3 posted on 12/02/2021 6:45:16 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Tell It Right

The sinister failure to search:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4017527/posts


4 posted on 12/02/2021 6:46:10 AM PST by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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To: Tell It Right

Dems will make both gas and electric unavailable.


5 posted on 12/02/2021 6:54:49 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

My wife has a Chevy volt hybrid (plug in) that goes 55 miles on a charge. We use it for around town travel. I have a Ford Escape hybrid (non plug in) that averages 45 MPG. We use that for longer trips. We buy very little fuel per month.


6 posted on 12/02/2021 6:58:14 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: Tell It Right; Army Air Corps

Their ultimate goal is NO GASOLINE/NATURAL GAS/DIESEL ENGINES ALLOWED PERIOD!

Keep your ‘old’ car?

There won’t be any replacement parts, so they will all eventually be scrapped.

At some point, not to far off, maybe 2040, it will be totally illegal to own or operate an internal combustion engine of any sort.

California has already banned small gasoline engines for lawn mowers and weed eaters, etc.

That will eventually be the law all across the USA................


7 posted on 12/02/2021 6:58:20 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Tell It Right

Note: Watch California and see how EVs impact the Grid. Remember that quick charging takes as much power as 4 normal residences. The rising popularity is going to blow a bunch of transformers.


8 posted on 12/02/2021 7:01:23 AM PST by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind blows too much)
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To: Right Brother

I had NO IDEA that Chevy Bolt only goes about 55 miles on a charge....

That would get me from my property to Reno-—But not back.

Neighbor drives daily to Reno to work-—500 miles a week.

When I lived in So Calif & was doing my accounting, I traveled more than 55 miles one way to quite a few clients...only monthly-—but still, couldn’t have returned .


9 posted on 12/02/2021 7:01:27 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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I vote for gas engines, EV’s are just a fad.


10 posted on 12/02/2021 7:01:32 AM PST by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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The EMP vulnerability is a significant concern. But, not only for the all-electric vehicles, but for modern autos with their electronic components.

All of this makes me want to get a ‘50s or -60s vintage pickup with a straight 6 I can maintain!


11 posted on 12/02/2021 7:01:47 AM PST by Redleg Duke (“I’m not the only one!”)
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To: Red Badger

Calif just had it’s worst recorded season of wildfires....

Try telling those firefighters they cannot use chain saws....


12 posted on 12/02/2021 7:02:19 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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Your idea is agreeing with the author, you are just splitting his hybrid car into two cars, doubling your insurance and licensing costs. But both cars can be used at once, so there is a convenience factor. The EV will still be inefficient as described though.

This article doesn’t get into the rare mineral supply problems in building EVs. One example, if 50% of cars are to be EVs, cobalt production must increase 900%. Does the USA have cobalt? Nope, guess who controls most of it. Other rare earth minerals will be to be mined heavily also and we don’t control those either. Copper use would have to double.

And every EV requires oil be used for paint, tires, interiors, fender wells, bumpers, lenses and other parts because EVs are too heavy unless weight saving oil parts are used.

The entire idea is ludicrous and wasteful on the energy spectrum.


13 posted on 12/02/2021 7:02:29 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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People on breathing assist machines will be plenty mad. Power goes out-—and generator to keep you alive is outlawed, also. THEN WHAT???


14 posted on 12/02/2021 7:03:30 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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I have two electric chainsaws, one corded, one battery.

They’ll just have to get a longer extension cord........................


15 posted on 12/02/2021 7:05:24 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Perhaps I didn't make my point clearly. I'm not arguing for a policy: if you're married and need two cars, thou must drive one car as gas and the other as EV. That would put the yuge demand on rare-earths that you described.

I meant it more from a libertarian perspective: what can my wife and I do to give us a hedge against gubment control either way?

16 posted on 12/02/2021 7:06:37 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Right Brother

The extra added advantage of that Chevy Bolt is that it can catch fire at any time—anywhere-—and take out surrounding cars or buildings.

Fire depts still do not know how to fight such fire.


17 posted on 12/02/2021 7:07:34 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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I assume EVs will have to be on a network, a govt controlled network, govt can shut off your car if it’s on a network. New gas cars will have much the same feature. The digital age is truly a double edge sword.


18 posted on 12/02/2021 7:10:36 AM PST by The Louiswu (Peace to you and may God Bless you all)
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“...what can my wife and I do to give us a hedge against gubment control either way?”

Bicycles, heh.

Thanks for the clarification. You have to elect people who aren’t interested in taking your freedom. Good luck with that one, since most politicians in both parties want to run your life entirely, for your own good of course.

If there is an EMP attack, try Cuba. Their cars will still run.


19 posted on 12/02/2021 7:10:57 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: MattMusson
"Note: Watch California and see how EVs impact the Grid. Remember that quick charging takes as much power as 4 normal residences. The rising popularity is going to blow a bunch of transformers."

I guess you didn't see my comment about using the gas powered car as the main car for long trips (read: little need for quick charging).

And the author pointed out the use of solar power. I don't have an EV, but I do have solar power on my house. I did it for the same reason I'm sorta thinking about getting an EV in a year or two: to give me a buffer against the government controlling us with energy availability either through outright control limits (i.e. Californians every now and then being told about scheduled brownouts) or by costs (i.e. my per-kWh charge on my recent power bill was 8% more than it was this time last year). On some days I have more solar power than I consume or store in batteries: it wouldn't hurt to direct that to the useful purpose of charging an EV. In time I'd study the throughput and maybe or maybe not upgrade my solar system to make myself a little more independent from the grid. Perfect? No. Less efficient from production to use than gasoline? Absolutely. But federal and state officials control the production and distribution of gasoline, while I control the production and distribution of the solar power I create.

20 posted on 12/02/2021 7:17:07 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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