Posted on 10/21/2021 11:17:00 PM PDT by grundle
Alec Baldwin discharged a prop firearm on the set of a Western he was making in New Mexico on Thursday, killing the film’s director of photography and wounding the movie’s director, the authorities said.
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Thanks. Something may break and we find out he was fooling
around. I’d hate to think that was the case, a life being
lost like that.
Yeah, I agree.
Curiouser and curiouser...
I hear ya.
Good rule...
I was going to say, I thought it was one.
Thanks for the follow up.
Thanks...
But then you are familiar with guns and would be qualified to
check it out.
I don’t know Alec’s knowledge of guns.
Thanks...
Thanks for the comments. I agree with your take on things.
I think someone should be held accountable.
No it’s not.
He was handed a weapon that was supposed to have been checked
out by a prop person.
They hire a person to take care of this. The staff accepts
that they are the set expert on such matters. It is accepted
that the gun has been rendered harmless when the actor takes
possession to film the scene.
It isn’t Balwin’s job or responsibility to recheck it.
There, that’s the question. I was anticipating it. I
thought others would pick up on that also.
I think he aimed it at the other person that was killed.
He wasn’t firing it at another actor in a scene.
He may have been attempting a joke by acting out feelings
both people knew was a play off some squabble they had.
While that is a piss poor thing to do, the gun still should
have been in a non-lethal state.
If I were the actor he was supposed to shooting at in the
next scene, I’d be thanking my lucky stars today.
There really is no excuse for using the gun in any other
manner than what it was there for.
We’ll have to see how the full story fleshes out.
I still agree with that, but this could take a turn yet.
We’ll see.
The propmaster is responsible for the safety of firearms used on set. Actors, and people in general, don't know much about firearms. They should be kept under lock and key, except when they are being used.
There are numerous examples when it went wrong. In 1984, actor Jon-Erik Hexum took a .44 loaded with wadded blacks and put it to his temple and pulled the trigger. He had no idea that at that range it could kill him. To me, the propmaster never should have allowed that to happen. All actors should be warned about this, and firearms should be in the custody of a prop person when there is no film rolling.
Bruce Lee's son Brandon Lee was killed during a movie scene because of improper dummy rounds with too much primer.
There have been onset gun fatalities since then. Bruce Lee's son was killed during a secene in the early to mid 90s.
I missed the date by 16 years, too.
Completely forgot about Bruce Lee's son.
Thanks for the essential corrections.
We’re in agreement here.
Hand the gun to the actor after instructions. Let him do
his scene. Grab it right back.
Also, never hand it off without pounding it in once again.
This gun can still be lethal. DO NOT PLAY AROUND.
Don’t get closer to the other actor than...
“I don’t know Alec’s knowledge of guns.”
Let’s put it this way...he’s not on our side.
True. I’m not sure if his family was ever involved in
hunting earlier in his life. I tend to doubt it, but I’m
not sure. That might translate to some concept of safely
handling guns. Maybe not too.
Yeah, I know...
My concern is that a non-actor and the director were shot.
It wasn’t the other actor in a scene.
What was Alec up to? Was he fooling around?
This could get ugly if he was just screwing around, whether
it was his fault or not. You don’t play around with guns,
and if someone dies, it really looks bad.
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