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Alec Baldwin Fatally Shoots Crew Member With Prop Firearm on Film Set, Authorities Say
New York Times ^ | October 21, 2021 | Alyssa Lukpat and Michael Levenson

Posted on 10/21/2021 11:17:00 PM PDT by grundle

Alec Baldwin discharged a prop firearm on the set of a Western he was making in New Mexico on Thursday, killing the film’s director of photography and wounding the movie’s director, the authorities said.

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To: grundle

Prayers for the dead person but...

Let’s go Alec Baldwin!


101 posted on 10/22/2021 4:59:46 AM PDT by moovova (I'm dismayed that most of the world hates me for being non-vaxxed. Honest. No, really.)
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To: charles_covington

The same questions we had. Definitely not an accident.

When that martial arts guy who killed himself goofing around with a prop gun, wasn’t he holding it actually touching his head?


102 posted on 10/22/2021 5:07:35 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Don't forget his cohort)
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To: V_TWIN

“I think Brandon Lee died under similar circumstances”

I think he was holding it right to his temple. Reports were that it wouldn’t have been lethal if it were an inch or two from his head.

Doubtful that Alec’s victims were only a couple inches away.


103 posted on 10/22/2021 5:14:22 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Don't forget his cohort)
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To: charles_covington

My question...

Why did Baldwin shoot the 2nd person after seeing the first one he shot injured/dead?


104 posted on 10/22/2021 5:17:07 AM PDT by newfreep (“Leftism, under all of its brand names, is a severe, violent & evil mental disorder.”)
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To: MayflowerMadam
On March 31, 1993, Lee was filming a scene in The Crow where his character is shot and killed by thugs.[97] In the scene, Lee's character walks into his apartment and discovers his fiancée being beaten and raped, and a thug played by actor Michael Massee is to fire a Smith & Wesson Model 629 .44 Magnum revolver at Lee's character as he walks into the room.[98]

In the film shoot preceding the fatal scene, the prop gun, which is a real revolver, was loaded with improperly-made dummy rounds, cartridges from which the special-effects crew had removed the powder charges so in close-ups the revolver would show normal-looking ammunitions. However, the crew neglected to remove the primers from the cartridges. At some point before the fatal event, one of the rounds had been fired; although there was no powder charges, the energy from the ignited primer was enough to separate the bullet from the casing and push it part-way into the gun barrel, where it got stuck (a condition known as a squib load). For the fatal scene, which called for the revolver to be fired at Lee from a distance of 3.6–4.5 meters (12–15 ft), the dummy cartridges were replaced with blank rounds, which contained a powder charge and the primer, but no solid bullet, allowing the gun to be fired with sound and flash effects without the risk of an actual projectile. However, the gun was not properly checked and cleared before the blank round was fired, and the dummy bullet previously lodged in the barrel was then propelled forward by the blank and shot out the muzzle with almost the same force as if the round were live, striking Lee in the abdomen.[99][100]

105 posted on 10/22/2021 5:19:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: newfreep

Or was one “magic bullet” that hit two people at the same time?


106 posted on 10/22/2021 5:19:23 AM PDT by newfreep (“Leftism, under all of its brand names, is a severe, violent & evil mental disorder.”)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Oh, I thought you were writing with an Irish accent.🥴


107 posted on 10/22/2021 5:23:40 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: central_va

Thanks. It was so long ago I didn’t recall the details.


108 posted on 10/22/2021 5:31:15 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Don't forget his cohort)
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To: albie

He must’ve lined them up and shot one with the bullet traveling to the 2nd one causing one death, one injury.
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Gee, I wonder why the bullet didn’t stop in the first body...like Ashley Babbitt...

Must be that point blank range thingy.


109 posted on 10/22/2021 5:52:22 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: grundle

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy…


110 posted on 10/22/2021 5:57:48 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: agere_contra

She was shot in the STOMACH! Not at close range, not in the head.

cant people read before running their mouths?


111 posted on 10/22/2021 6:19:13 AM PDT by baclava
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To: 3RIVRS
Why was he in a scene that required him to hold or use a gun?

Because movie....

112 posted on 10/22/2021 6:23:11 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: DoughtyOne

This is 100% on Baldwin.

He aimed a firearm at people and pulled the trigger.

It’s irrelevant what he may have thought. This is a negligent discharge at the least and therefore negligent homicide.


113 posted on 10/22/2021 6:46:05 AM PDT by MercyFlush (IT’S NOT A VACCINE. Once you accept this then everything else starts to make sense.)
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To: central_va

Yes, thats what this case needs, more facts...

Was it a projectile that killed her or shrapnel.


114 posted on 10/22/2021 7:13:36 AM PDT by baclava
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To: DoughtyOne

Why would he aim it at the director?


115 posted on 10/22/2021 7:15:37 AM PDT by OLDCU
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To: zeestephen

Nope, that’s Stephen.


116 posted on 10/22/2021 7:41:41 AM PDT by Whyfor
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To: DoughtyOne

Yeah exactly. While preventable still a tragic accident and of all the reasons to not like Baldwin this is not one.


117 posted on 10/22/2021 7:47:17 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

This is not on Baldwin. Its not his fault and nobody is going to charge him. He’s probably devastated over it. You have to remember that just because half the people on FR have some or significant firearms training most actors dont. if it was you or me we would have fired a round into the ground just to make sure because we’ve been told a thousand times never trust what someone tells you about a gun being loaded. But that’s not the average actor.


118 posted on 10/22/2021 8:05:47 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: freebilly

But it’s the perfect opportunity to take a stand on his anti gun principles.


119 posted on 10/22/2021 8:42:36 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: SteveH

> Simply if the DP and the director are both on a dolly truck or crane platform and working in close physical proximity together for the purposes of viewing a scene as it is being recorded either visually or using an LCD display mounted on the camera itself. If visually then the best vantage point is over the camera lens looking parallel to the principal lens axis.

example (wes anderson american express commercial):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbO3BS0Uzm0


120 posted on 10/22/2021 8:44:04 AM PDT by SteveH (.)
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