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Alec Baldwin Fatally Shoots Crew Member With Prop Firearm on Film Set, Authorities Say
New York Times ^ | October 21, 2021 | Alyssa Lukpat and Michael Levenson

Posted on 10/21/2021 11:17:00 PM PDT by grundle

Alec Baldwin discharged a prop firearm on the set of a Western he was making in New Mexico on Thursday, killing the film’s director of photography and wounding the movie’s director, the authorities said.

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To: grundle

Under what possible scenario is it proper for an actor on the movie to point and shoot a prop gun at the cinematographer?


21 posted on 10/21/2021 11:59:07 PM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vFiUUcBkc)
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To: Stosh

and he has been around prop guns since the hunt for red october over 32 years ago, he’s gone through plently of instructions about the dangers of prop guns on every film he’s used them on, its part of the safety requirements on set


22 posted on 10/22/2021 12:00:33 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: grundle

Ha! You knew this annoying pissant was finally gonna pop his cork one day, and someone would get hurt. Give him a few years in a fed max. He’ll be a changed man.


23 posted on 10/22/2021 12:02:15 AM PDT by Viking2002 (Whatever.)
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To: grundle

Manslaughter charges when?


24 posted on 10/22/2021 12:04:04 AM PDT by cranked
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To: charles_covington
Can someone tell me why he was firing towards the cinematographer and the director at the same time and how one shot can kill one and injure another? How does that work?

Watch the Seinfeld episode about the magic loogie. Back and to the left. Back and to the left.

25 posted on 10/22/2021 12:14:29 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Proudly posting comments without reading the articles since 2002.)
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To: grundle
Screams at his 11-year-old daughter, calling her a rude, thoughtless little pig. A few instances of him punching people on the street. Now he kills someone.

So should this be on Cops, First 48, or Live PD?

26 posted on 10/22/2021 12:19:27 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Proudly posting comments without reading the articles since 2002.)
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To: charles_covington

“ Can someone tell me why he was firing towards the cinematographer and the director at the same time and how one shot can kill one and injure another? How does that work?”
This is not on him. In making a movie they film from many different angles including head-on. Non-hollow point bullets can easily pass through a person and into another. Also, it may have been a shotgun.


27 posted on 10/22/2021 12:23:48 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: grundle

Was he drunk??


28 posted on 10/22/2021 12:26:39 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: dead
Under what possible scenario is it proper for an actor on the movie to point and shoot a prop gun at the cinematographer?

I thought movie prop guns, were not capable of firing anything? I guess I was wrong, but I think there is negligence there.

29 posted on 10/22/2021 12:30:58 AM PDT by Mark17 (USAF ATCer, Retired. Father of USAF pilot. ATCers & pilots, the quintessential elements of aviation)
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To: Mark17

No actor is responsible for a prop gun put in their hands.

Totally on the special effects people.

Blanks dont kill, theres more to the story.


30 posted on 10/22/2021 12:36:39 AM PDT by baclava
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To: charles_covington

> Can someone tell me why he was firing towards the cinematographer and the director at the same time and how one shot can kill one and injure another? How does that work?

Simply if the DP and the director are both on a dolly truck or crane platform and working in close physical proximity together for the purposes of viewing a scene as it is being recorded either visually or using an LCD display mounted on the camera itself. If visually then the best vantage point is over the camera lens looking parallel to the principal lens axis.

If the scene calls for recording the point of view of the victim at the time a shot is fired at close range (as can commonly be the case in an action movie script), then the barrel of the prop gun is pointed directly at the camera at the time the actor pulls the trigger, and safety of the DP and director are actually in the hands of the set armorer. i’m not sure it is the job of the actor to second guess the armorer. the actor needs to know his lines and deliver them convincingly with inflection, body language, etc. the actor is probably nowhere near the physical location where the armorer prepares (or normally should prepare) the set prop guns for a scene with dummy rounds. Really, my guess is that the purpose of a set armorer is to ensure that occurrences like this never happen. thus, the armorer or his boss (either a set safety supervisor, AD pr director himself or herself) might be in big legal trouble.


31 posted on 10/22/2021 12:38:35 AM PDT by SteveH (.)
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To: Nifster

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He is a heavy drinker, but we don’t know about this time / specific event.

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32 posted on 10/22/2021 12:42:01 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (‘’)
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To: dead

I am guessing they had not started shooting yet and the unsafe prop was just handed over to him and that the scene being shot was being discussed when improper handling of fire arm caused a discharge


33 posted on 10/22/2021 12:43:46 AM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: baclava
“Blanks dont kill, theres more to the story.“

Yes they most certainly do kill, very easily.

Freddie Prince killed himself with a prop gun firing blanks. He did not understand blanks are very deadly at close range.

34 posted on 10/22/2021 12:45:56 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: grundle

I wonder how it must feel to wrongfully kill someone...https://t.co/WE6QsAAXGI— AlecBaldwin (@AlecBaldwln____) September 23, 2017


35 posted on 10/22/2021 12:50:24 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: DoughtyOne

I was thinking the exact same thing.


36 posted on 10/22/2021 12:51:55 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: precisionshootist

Sorry that was actor Jon Huxem. Put the gun to his head because he thought it was just blanks. Blanks are very deadly.


37 posted on 10/22/2021 12:55:04 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: grundle

Were the victims vaccinated? If not, put them both down as COVID deaths.


38 posted on 10/22/2021 12:57:08 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: yesthatjallen

“Or was he messing around and fired at least two shots at two people believing blanks wouldn’t injure anyone?”


That’s what I think happened.


39 posted on 10/22/2021 12:57:35 AM PDT by Ken H (Trump won.)
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To: grundle

Not the first time this has happened. So why would a prop company provide a weapon or allow live ammo on a set they where they are in charge of props? Big lawsuit coming.


40 posted on 10/22/2021 1:03:32 AM PDT by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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