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The Marines Reluctantly Let a Sikh Officer Wear a Turban. He Says It's Not Enough.
NYT via Yahoo ^ | 09 26 2021 | Dave Philipps

Posted on 09/26/2021 11:20:03 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Almost every morning for five years, 1st Lt. Sukhbir Toor has pulled on the uniform of the U.S. Marine Corps. On Thursday, he also got to put on the turban of a faithful Sikh.

It was a first for the Marine Corps, which almost never allows deviations from its hallowed image, and it was a long-awaited chance for the officer to combine two of the things he holds most dear.

“I finally don’t have to pick which life I want to commit to, my faith or my country,” Toor, 26, said in an interview. “I can be who I am and honor both sides.”

His case is the latest in a long-running conflict between two fundamental values in the U.S. military: the tradition of discipline and uniformity, and the constitutional liberties the armed forces were created to defend.

While Sikh troops in Britain, Australia and Canada have long worn turbans in uniform, and scores of Sikhs do so now in other branches of the military, Toor’s turban is the first in the 246-year history of the Marine Corps. For generations, the Marine Corps has fought any change to its strict appearance standards, saying that uniformity was as essential to a fighting force as well-oiled rifles.

The Marine Corps has made the allowance only to a point. Toor can wear a turban in daily dress at normal duty stations, but he cannot do so while deployed to a conflict zone, or when in dress uniform in a ceremonial unit, where the public could see it.

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KEYWORDS: dirtyturban; diversity; marines; military; sikh; standards; sukhbirtoor; turban; wokemilitary
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To: libh8er
Namrata Randhawa, aka “Nikki Haley” is also Sikh.

She was also the groundbreaker in destroying American history when she removed the Confederate flag from Statehouse grounds.

21 posted on 09/27/2021 1:12:38 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: yesthatjallen

We are allowing the Marxist to systematically destroy us.


22 posted on 09/27/2021 1:18:38 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: yesthatjallen

Yep- sets the state for Corporal Klinger and believe me, they will come in droves demanding their interpreted changes and insisting on ‘being who they really are’.


23 posted on 09/27/2021 1:33:04 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: datura
I would never salute this f_cktard.

You're not saluting the man, you're saluting the rank turban.

Regards,

24 posted on 09/27/2021 1:35:24 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: yesthatjallen
While Sikh troops in Britain, Australia and Canada have long worn turbans in uniform [...]

Traditional regiments composes solely of Sikhs (or what have you), wearing elements of their traditional garb, is one thing, but this, in America...

Regards,

25 posted on 09/27/2021 1:37:18 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
In 1986, the Supreme Court ruled the Air Force can ban yarmulkes because it's not part of the uniform.

Justices Uphold Curb on Yarmulke.

I don't know if that's still the rule today. But rules are being relaxed as our military becomes more "diverse."

In 2021, the Army changed its rules for women, permitting them to wear their hair long.

In a Changing Military, the Army Eases Its Rules for Women’s Hair

26 posted on 09/27/2021 1:55:47 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: kiryandil

Which isn’t the mission of any marine…at least not yet

I’ve known plenty of Sikhs. Good folks. They’ve never shown any sign of being so confused or conflicted.

This guy is a trouble maker


27 posted on 09/27/2021 2:03:01 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: yesthatjallen

I wonder if the FFL would tolerate this insubordination?

It is insubordination.


28 posted on 09/27/2021 2:07:02 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: monkeyshine

“What, does he want to carry a dagger too? Wear all white? Make himself a target for enemy fire?”

Sikhs do that?


29 posted on 09/27/2021 2:08:19 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Which is more important to him - serving as a Marine or wearing his turban?!


30 posted on 09/27/2021 2:11:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: libh8er

Nikki Haley is a Methodist.


31 posted on 09/27/2021 2:15:51 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: Angelino97

“In 2021, the Army changed its rules for women, permitting them to wear their hair long.”

As long as I can remember the reasoning for having short hair was Sanitation. I guess the guys can now grow long hair.

IMHO, Everybody sports short crew cut hair, everybody.

This article neglects to mention that skihs have very long hair bound up in the turban.

I’m only assuming that this individual is/was not going to get a crew cut put a turbine over it.


32 posted on 09/27/2021 2:18:29 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Grimmy

Release from duty “for the good of the service”.

The Marine Corps is the “zero tolerance” service, with undeviating standards. No compromises, that way lies loss of discipline and dedication.

Both their greatest shining virtue and sometimes their curse.


33 posted on 09/27/2021 2:40:43 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor)
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To: yesthatjallen; Fred Nerks

I want a daily rum ration on sea deployments, just like the British Royal Navy used to get ( 180 proof).

Its communion in my religion !

It does not make me “sikh!” ( grin).


34 posted on 09/27/2021 2:48:16 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: yesthatjallen

Our Military is now CIORRUPTED by DEMOCRATS!!


35 posted on 09/27/2021 2:56:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMANr Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: yesthatjallen

I generally hold Sikhs in high regard because of their strict moral code and generally high ethics. Sikhism is pretty compatible with Western values. This guy is a tool, and a leftist.


36 posted on 09/27/2021 3:20:03 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: DesertRhino
Low life. Selfish prick didn’t learn a damned thing in his training.

Does your comment also apply to Desmond T. Doss ?

37 posted on 09/27/2021 3:27:05 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Without potatoes, life has no meaning......)
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To: yesthatjallen
America disappears ....

Not that long ago.

AMERICA APPEARED;



38 posted on 09/27/2021 3:30:56 AM PDT by knarf
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To: yesthatjallen

“I can be who I am and honor both sides.”

The United States military only has one side.


39 posted on 09/27/2021 3:38:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: kiryandil
I'll bet the looey could beat your weak old @ss.

What a sport.

You bet a current, active duty service man in his 20s, could beat a guy who got out of the Marines about 40 years ago?

I'd say most current, active duty Marines, could beat the "weak old asses" of most FReepers that are 60 + years old.

Grimmy's post said nothing about the strength of the Marine, only about his decision to want his own, personal uniform.

Do you think a mooselimb woman should be allowed to wear a burka while in "uniform"?

As far as your "creds" go, no one cares how tough you think you are, I know you are not tougher than my daily and bedside protection.

40 posted on 09/27/2021 3:51:09 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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