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As a male manager, can I refuse to meet with women unless chaperoned?
New York Post ^ | 8/15 | Greg Giangrande

Posted on 08/17/2021 5:48:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway

If a governor resigns over a “he said, she said” dispute about where his hand was when she asked for a photo, or because he asked about their personal lives, or hugged them for a second too long at an event, is there any hope for being a male manager? I feel all it takes is for one woman to make a claim and then I am tarnished forever and risk losing my job. Can I make it clear that I will refuse to meet with any woman at work one-on-one, privately?

The truth is, I hear this privately from a lot of male managers. Highly regarded and respected leaders who have never had anyone complain about them have expressed concern about meeting with female colleagues behind closed doors a result of everything that has been reported in the media these past few years. I think that fear is unwarranted. In all of my years in HR I have never experienced a case of women conspiring to make multiple false claims about a male manager. If you have any concerns about a particular colleague, male or female, and you need to have a difficult conversation with them, you may feel more comfortable having someone else in the room. That is prudent and fine. But to say you won’t meet with any women privately is insulting and unprofessional.

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To: nickcarraway

“Closed doors” aren’t a problem if they have windows without blinds. Wouldn’t everyone be more comfortable in that setting? Just order a new see-through door, and don’t ruin it by installing a blind.


21 posted on 08/17/2021 6:06:12 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Watch "THE CHOSEN," about Jesus & the disciples He chose: https://watch.angelstudios.com/thechosen)
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To: nickcarraway

The solution to anyone, man or woman, lying, is biblical and it is totally correct.

The liar is given the most extreme punishment onte books for whatthey were trying to frame tbe other person for. That penalty is what the innocent person was facing.

So if you lie and frame someone for murder, you get the max penalty that innocent person could have gotten. So death in some places, life without parole in others...

If you falsely accuse someone of rape, you getthe max penalty that innocent person could have received. So death penalty in some places, life without parole in others.

Its the only way to end liars facing no real negative consequences for their actions. And its fair and its biblical.

The liars not only lie, but they also frame an innocent person in the process of lying. Thats two separate crimes.
And they dont care what happens to that person.


22 posted on 08/17/2021 6:06:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

And my wife is a process engineer in my department. Any conversation with her the same rule applies. (until we get home)


23 posted on 08/17/2021 6:06:41 PM PDT by blackdog (Sophisticated so public policy is not applicable. )
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To: reg45

It was the Billy Graham policy waaaaaay before Puntz.


24 posted on 08/17/2021 6:06:44 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: nickcarraway

Tell her you videotape all conversations and do it with all employees..Someday you may need the evidence that a man says you harassed him......


25 posted on 08/17/2021 6:06:50 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: nickcarraway

Mike Pence follows that rule


26 posted on 08/17/2021 6:10:22 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: nickcarraway

I believe that is the practice of some men now...if not chaperoned, meeting in a place that is open for all to see.

Sad.

This is what we have come to.


27 posted on 08/17/2021 6:12:32 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: nickcarraway

“If a governor resigns over a “he said, she said” dispute”

It was a bit more than he said/she said, but it is ridiculous that they went after him for this and NOT his serial murder of elderly as well.


28 posted on 08/17/2021 6:12:42 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: reg45

i would never say that I would not meet with a woman privately. that would be painting a target on my back.

I would make sure that I do not, and always have a colleague in the room, or a secretary to take down words. Move into glass walled conference rooms, or bring in other brains at the same time.


29 posted on 08/17/2021 6:12:45 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I would never meet with a female in my office when I was a professor. Never ever.


30 posted on 08/17/2021 6:13:35 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles.)
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To: nickcarraway

You can’t actually say that, but you can invite a third party in to observe. You’d have to do that everytime for everyone though.


31 posted on 08/17/2021 6:14:16 PM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

There you go again; always reliable.


32 posted on 08/17/2021 6:15:56 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: nickcarraway

“In all of my years in HR I have never experienced a case of women conspiring to make multiple false claims about a male manager.”

Don’t get around much, huh?


33 posted on 08/17/2021 6:16:21 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: nickcarraway

Can’t limit it to just women. Gay men, trans, identifying as a chipmunk. Can’t meet alone with any of them.


34 posted on 08/17/2021 6:16:36 PM PDT by Trumplican
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To: Chickensoup

Good advice.


35 posted on 08/17/2021 6:17:35 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: nickcarraway
I think that fear is unwarranted. In all of my years in HR

HR is full of idiots.

Always have a witness.

Always.

Man or woman.

Always.

36 posted on 08/17/2021 6:18:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I refuse to be afraid. I refuse to bow. I refuse to take any job I do not wish to. So BUZZ OFF!)
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To: BobL
Victim blaming. Bet you also give our President a pass on all of his groping, saying that girls are lying when a man touches them - that they're lying on him. And yes, celebrating a murderous cult disguised as a quasi-religious-political group that go door to door hunting for girls 12 and up to be child brides for their craven warriors, or will execute women for going out in public without a burqa in, or when women are raped, are then executed for their infidelity (either hanging, being shot, or stoned - saw that video this morning) all because a man said that she tempted him by him seeing her eyes. I saw plenty of men running away at the airport in video yesterday, leaving behind the women and children to suffer a fate - and yet you are congratulating their brutality because you think that all men are Jesus and are perfect.

Sure you're on the right site? Maybe you'd fit in at DU where people are viewed as chattel.

37 posted on 08/17/2021 6:20:59 PM PDT by Maigrey (Words mean things & words have power. Wield it responsibly.)
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To: nuconvert

Elevators either from what I understand.


38 posted on 08/17/2021 6:21:07 PM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: nickcarraway

“I think that fear is unwarranted. In all of my years in HR I have never experienced a case of women conspiring to make multiple false claims about a male manager.”

In all my years in HR, seeing every kind of whack job, diva, perpetually offended, nasty, race-obsessed kind of person making false claims, I think the fear is warranted. True, most haven’t been by women against male managers, but it easily could happen.

Man, I hated HR!


39 posted on 08/17/2021 6:24:02 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (While the foundations are being destroyed, what are the righteous doing?)
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To: Retrofitted

Simple solution- inform the person that the entire meeting is being filmed and audio recorded, and have two cameras that cover every angle.

Time and date stamped, with crystal clear audio and video.

If they don’t consent to it, then tough titty, no meeting.

Use technology the same way the other side does to protect yourself.


40 posted on 08/17/2021 6:24:50 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.She was, indeed, a hottie… Rest in peace, Joanne.)
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