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Republicans Are Questioning Whether They Want Trump Again
Townhall.com ^ | June 24, 2021 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 06/24/2021 3:36:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

There are rumblings out there, rumblings that have increased noticeably in recent weeks, that maybe it’s time to say “Thanks” to President Trump for his yeoman service and move on. It’s nothing personal, just business – everyone appreciates the president’s accomplishments, most notably his taking a sledgehammer to the garbage bipartisan establishment and its media toadies. But we need to win next time. Up until lately, it seemed like the base was all-in on the Donald pulling the full Grover Cleveland and returning in 2024 to vanquish noted border-avoider Kamala Harris, since it’s pretty obvious that the Asterisk is not going to stagger over the four-year finish line. Yet cons are now clearly considering their options.

Intrigued by the word I was hearing on the street – I’m like the Huggy Bear of conservatism – I ran a poll on my @KurtSchlichter Twitter account to check my extremely Trump-friendly audience leanings. I expected about 65 percent would be all in on the president heading into round two. I got something very different.

First, I set the ground rules and assumptions:

My poll on President Trump in 2024... Pick who you intend to support as of today.

Assumptions:

1. You'd support the GOP nominee if your guy lost the nomination. [US Flag emoji]

2. @RichardGrenell will be the VP because we want 16 years of him total. [Crown emoji]

3. Brian Stelter is a potato.

Then I got to the poll itself, and what I found was shocking. In 24 hours, 21,370 conservatives voted. Here are the stunning results:

The “Some Jeb!ite like Nikki!,” option, in which we would to return to a 2005-ish regime of managed decline and submission to our establishment overlords, garners a puny and impotent 1.3 percent of the votes. I guess the Cheneymania spawned by the Beltway Cowgirl’s brave fight against conservative success is a non-starter. Perhaps the lack of mean tweets has not made up for the overseas humiliation, growing crime, and rampant inflation under President *, and most of the GOP Sissy Caucus has come around.

The “Someone else who is woke” faction wants another Republican instead of one of the top two contenders. It drew 2.8%. Hey, that’s good – at least they want someone conservawoke.

Then the two titans, President Trump and the guy I wish was my governor, Ron DeSantis…

Mighty Donald Trump … 45.7%

Relentless Ron DeSantis … 50.1%.

Wow.

Basically, 54.3% of hardcore Republicans, because my Twitter feed is definitely not squish-friendly, are ready to hand the President a gold watch, thank him for his service, and move on. This tracks with a lot of what prominent conservatives have been saying in the background; what’s notable is that now the base is speaking it aloud. For the last six months, people were ticked off about the manifestly rigged election – via a combo of outright fraud, unlawful election changes, and media/establishment intervention on behalf of Grandpa Badfinger – and they wanted vengeance. But success is the best revenge, and people are now, as their emotions cool, evaluating the situation less emotionally and more ruthlessly. They want to win, and that’s all they care about.

Who has the best chance of winning?

It might be Donald Trump. He was certainly the right guy in 2016, but when 2024 rolls around, it will be eight years later – nearly a decade, once you count the 2016 election cycle. The sledgehammer that was necessary then might not be the right tool for the job now. Trump’s strengths brought amazing achievements, but his weaknesses opened him up to stunning setbacks. People are asking if we really want to litigate his presidency again. And the answer they seem to be giving is that their focus is on winning the election rather than winning the argument over the past.

Now, this phenomenon cannot be understood as a repudiation of Trump. It isn’t – we dig him. While many are critical of some of his actions and omissions – as the head honcho, the GOP’s total failure to prepare for the disputed election is on Trump despite him being let down by subordinates because the commander is always responsible for what his unit does and fails to do – they are not anti-Trump. If the correlation of forces makes Trump the most likely to win, then the sentiment will flow back his way. This is not about Trump per se, but rather about victory.

Ron DeSantis has provided a powerful alternative going forward. He does not do the social media warfare thing (which I and others loved, but a lot of people did not). Instead, he simply piles achievement upon achievement, everything from fixing election rules to regulating big tech to allowing you to defend your family when dirty, stinky Antifa/BLM creeps surround you and your family in your car. And he’s not omnipresent – remember that supporting Trump is a 24/7 occupation. There’s always a fight going on. We’re down for the struggle, but people get tired. Ron DeSantis’ model is not being out there all the time. We needed a media superstar in 2016; people are right to consider whether we do or do not in 2024.

There are other concerns. Did Trump learn his lessons about personnel? That was always his weak point, and the way he was impressed by medal-bedecked generals who inevitably screwed him over led to the woke joke that is today’s Pentagon. Will he get indicted by some Democrat and let the media to make that the story rather than the hellscape into which America is descending under this *dministration? Will he be able to use social media again (though, frankly, by banning him and letting him recede from the public eye temporarily, the tech fascists might have inadvertently done him a favor).

And, at 78, will he be too old? After our current Crusty-in-Chief, do we need another boomer president?

The betting from the in-the-know crowd is mixed. My pal Seb Gorka thinks he will run. Others are unsure. Some say “No.” I don’t know the answer, but I tend to think not. He’s already gone down in history, and he’s in the process of being vindicated on just about every decision he made. Does he need the hassle? No. He has to want it, and I don’t know if he does.

We still adore the President, and we are grateful. If he’s the nominee, then all but the Jeb! types in the GOP will be all-in. But what’s clear is that the idea that 2024 is a gimme for him is wrong. It’s nothing personal, just business – and Trump may well understand that. The nomination is not his for the taking; if he wants it, he’ll have to earn it all over again. And we all know how betting against Donald Trump goes.


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To: americas.best.days...

They’ll do that to ANY Republican now.


41 posted on 06/24/2021 5:08:20 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: Kaslin

Go ahead. You stupids. It’s not what you politicians want. It’s what the people want. When this man holds rallies that have 100,000 people or 10’s of thousands then you better get with him. Running against him will pull your party apart. Best thing that could happen to them is get him back in office and get him his last term. Get his endorsement.


42 posted on 06/24/2021 5:09:56 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: Kaslin

I have ZERO plan on even supporting Republicans again. I MAY still vote for them but I’m not seeing them do squat against this communist revolution overtaking the country.

I don’t see them standing up for ME.

I don’t see them standing up for the Constitution.

I don’t see them standing up for free speech.

All I see is surrender and retreat to Democrats.

Except Trump.

You want my support and vote? At the very least - start fighting back LIKE Trump.

W was out all over the place supporting open borders and supporting BLM but can’t say ONE word in support of actual GOP planks in their stated platform?

That’s not my party, man.


43 posted on 06/24/2021 5:19:35 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Kaslin

As long as they continue his policies. No going back to the American worker last policies of the past. To hell with catering to big companies who now support Dems fully. No open borders and no amnesty.


44 posted on 06/24/2021 5:20:51 AM PDT by pas
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To: alloysteel

DeSantis. needs to governor of Florida for ever....There is no cleaning out of DC til the money is taken away and returned to the states..


45 posted on 06/24/2021 5:26:09 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Kaslin

I want Trump for 4 more years then 8 years of Ron DeSantis.


46 posted on 06/24/2021 5:28:15 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: jmaroneps37

Well said! This is what the left does. Tell lies to try to discourage Trump’s base. DON’T FALL FOR IT!!!


47 posted on 06/24/2021 5:29:51 AM PDT by JoJo2020 (I take a knee to God only!)
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To: Kaslin

Whistling past the graveyard. They will have to kill Trump, and his family, to get rid of him.

Absolutely sure that this is something Republicans are capable of.


48 posted on 06/24/2021 5:32:29 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: stockpirate
Trump DeSantis 2024.

Absolutely, Trump for another 4 (if he is not reinstated this year) and then DeSantis for 8 years.

49 posted on 06/24/2021 5:35:28 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Kaslin
Despite his massive ego (it's what made him so damned good), Trump may very well understand it's not all about him, it's all about saving America.

I think Trump works his butt off for the mid-terms, then works again for whoever is the GOP nominee in 2024 - he knows we love him, and his job would be just about completed with a DeSantis administration resetting our course of Liberty.

50 posted on 06/24/2021 5:44:05 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: Kaslin

They never did want Trump. Hello.


51 posted on 06/24/2021 5:57:50 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Kaslin

I’ll go with youth, and Trump is much more effective and the swamp is much less effective with him as a an unrestricted firebrand.


52 posted on 06/24/2021 6:01:56 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: alloysteel

“ Were he to move to any other position from Governor of Florida...”

I wonder why people are so naive

I wonder why I’m reading such things on Free Republic

DeSantis moves out into presidential politics and he gets bombarded from all sides. Hello.

Right now every republican who wants to stay out of jail has a battery of staffers working on this guy.

Every democrat has a team night and day working on outing this guys every move from the time he walked to kindergarten with his buddies.

Ditto any person associated with him.

People believe that because the gop and Dems allow him in the governorship in a major state that he is safe.

Why do they do that?

Do they know that joe biden and Harris actually campaigned in Houston a week before the 2020 election? Why don’t they know that? Why don’t people know none of these people, no state is safe?

DeSantis will not be allowed to run for President.


53 posted on 06/24/2021 6:06:10 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Kaslin
I love Ron Desantis but my first choice is Donald J. trump. We must not allow the lying media and corrupt democrats to persevere in rigging another election. They must be devastated in 2022 and 2024!
54 posted on 06/24/2021 6:06:33 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Travis McGee; Kaslin

Well that decides it for me right there.

All in for Trump!


55 posted on 06/24/2021 6:08:34 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: Kaslin

He fights, so yes he will be the next Nominee.


56 posted on 06/24/2021 6:09:02 AM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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To: stockpirate

Exactly!


57 posted on 06/24/2021 6:09:16 AM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: Kaslin

Oh look, Townhall is teasing Never Trumpism again. Yawn.


58 posted on 06/24/2021 6:10:59 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: americas.best.days...

All of that is true. So is the idea that Trump is aware of it and that he won’t let it stop him.


59 posted on 06/24/2021 6:11:32 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

And that’s what we love about Donald Trump, isn’t it?

I fully support however he chooses to use his tremendous power and influence.


60 posted on 06/24/2021 7:11:20 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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