Posted on 06/24/2021 3:36:07 AM PDT by Kaslin
There are rumblings out there, rumblings that have increased noticeably in recent weeks, that maybe it’s time to say “Thanks” to President Trump for his yeoman service and move on. It’s nothing personal, just business – everyone appreciates the president’s accomplishments, most notably his taking a sledgehammer to the garbage bipartisan establishment and its media toadies. But we need to win next time. Up until lately, it seemed like the base was all-in on the Donald pulling the full Grover Cleveland and returning in 2024 to vanquish noted border-avoider Kamala Harris, since it’s pretty obvious that the Asterisk is not going to stagger over the four-year finish line. Yet cons are now clearly considering their options.
Intrigued by the word I was hearing on the street – I’m like the Huggy Bear of conservatism – I ran a poll on my @KurtSchlichter Twitter account to check my extremely Trump-friendly audience leanings. I expected about 65 percent would be all in on the president heading into round two. I got something very different.
First, I set the ground rules and assumptions:
My poll on President Trump in 2024... Pick who you intend to support as of today.
Assumptions:
1. You'd support the GOP nominee if your guy lost the nomination. [US Flag emoji]
2. @RichardGrenell will be the VP because we want 16 years of him total. [Crown emoji]
3. Brian Stelter is a potato.
Then I got to the poll itself, and what I found was shocking. In 24 hours, 21,370 conservatives voted. Here are the stunning results:
The “Some Jeb!ite like Nikki!,” option, in which we would to return to a 2005-ish regime of managed decline and submission to our establishment overlords, garners a puny and impotent 1.3 percent of the votes. I guess the Cheneymania spawned by the Beltway Cowgirl’s brave fight against conservative success is a non-starter. Perhaps the lack of mean tweets has not made up for the overseas humiliation, growing crime, and rampant inflation under President *, and most of the GOP Sissy Caucus has come around.
The “Someone else who is woke” faction wants another Republican instead of one of the top two contenders. It drew 2.8%. Hey, that’s good – at least they want someone conservawoke.
Then the two titans, President Trump and the guy I wish was my governor, Ron DeSantis…
Mighty Donald Trump … 45.7%
Relentless Ron DeSantis … 50.1%.
Wow.
Basically, 54.3% of hardcore Republicans, because my Twitter feed is definitely not squish-friendly, are ready to hand the President a gold watch, thank him for his service, and move on. This tracks with a lot of what prominent conservatives have been saying in the background; what’s notable is that now the base is speaking it aloud. For the last six months, people were ticked off about the manifestly rigged election – via a combo of outright fraud, unlawful election changes, and media/establishment intervention on behalf of Grandpa Badfinger – and they wanted vengeance. But success is the best revenge, and people are now, as their emotions cool, evaluating the situation less emotionally and more ruthlessly. They want to win, and that’s all they care about.
Who has the best chance of winning?
It might be Donald Trump. He was certainly the right guy in 2016, but when 2024 rolls around, it will be eight years later – nearly a decade, once you count the 2016 election cycle. The sledgehammer that was necessary then might not be the right tool for the job now. Trump’s strengths brought amazing achievements, but his weaknesses opened him up to stunning setbacks. People are asking if we really want to litigate his presidency again. And the answer they seem to be giving is that their focus is on winning the election rather than winning the argument over the past.
Now, this phenomenon cannot be understood as a repudiation of Trump. It isn’t – we dig him. While many are critical of some of his actions and omissions – as the head honcho, the GOP’s total failure to prepare for the disputed election is on Trump despite him being let down by subordinates because the commander is always responsible for what his unit does and fails to do – they are not anti-Trump. If the correlation of forces makes Trump the most likely to win, then the sentiment will flow back his way. This is not about Trump per se, but rather about victory.
Ron DeSantis has provided a powerful alternative going forward. He does not do the social media warfare thing (which I and others loved, but a lot of people did not). Instead, he simply piles achievement upon achievement, everything from fixing election rules to regulating big tech to allowing you to defend your family when dirty, stinky Antifa/BLM creeps surround you and your family in your car. And he’s not omnipresent – remember that supporting Trump is a 24/7 occupation. There’s always a fight going on. We’re down for the struggle, but people get tired. Ron DeSantis’ model is not being out there all the time. We needed a media superstar in 2016; people are right to consider whether we do or do not in 2024.
There are other concerns. Did Trump learn his lessons about personnel? That was always his weak point, and the way he was impressed by medal-bedecked generals who inevitably screwed him over led to the woke joke that is today’s Pentagon. Will he get indicted by some Democrat and let the media to make that the story rather than the hellscape into which America is descending under this *dministration? Will he be able to use social media again (though, frankly, by banning him and letting him recede from the public eye temporarily, the tech fascists might have inadvertently done him a favor).
And, at 78, will he be too old? After our current Crusty-in-Chief, do we need another boomer president?
The betting from the in-the-know crowd is mixed. My pal Seb Gorka thinks he will run. Others are unsure. Some say “No.” I don’t know the answer, but I tend to think not. He’s already gone down in history, and he’s in the process of being vindicated on just about every decision he made. Does he need the hassle? No. He has to want it, and I don’t know if he does.
We still adore the President, and we are grateful. If he’s the nominee, then all but the Jeb! types in the GOP will be all-in. But what’s clear is that the idea that 2024 is a gimme for him is wrong. It’s nothing personal, just business – and Trump may well understand that. The nomination is not his for the taking; if he wants it, he’ll have to earn it all over again. And we all know how betting against Donald Trump goes.
All of this silly talk about Trump being finished will continue right up until the day after his first rally when he gets 25 000 people inside, another 40000 outside and 750,000 watching on RSBN.
This talk is aid and comfort to our enemies but nothing more.
That only happens if the left can still control the vote counting. If it is a fair election you are wrong on both counts.
And none of what I posted is "wishful thinking." In fact, I hope I'm wrong.
It really doesn’t matter who runs against Biden’s successor, they will be jobbed out of the win as in 2020. Who is going to stop the democrat machines in Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, Las Vegas, Minneapolis, and in 2024 Cleveland, Houston, Miami and St. Louis from stealing it again? They stole it in 2020 with a Uniparty (R) AG, FBI director and control of the senate. Are you telling me the Biden Administration is going to crack down more than Trump? I guess the states could pass new laws since NO laws were broken in 2020. Don’t tell me you’re waiting for Roberts and the DS USSC to do anything. Rather than doing anything about the coup they were up to their eyeballs in, the Uniparty (R) keeps the chump base occupied with who’s gonna get robbed in 2024.
Trump will get my vote! I’m not liking the Fla gov’s new mandate.
In the Senate, the Republicans have 20 seats up for re-election in 2022. The Democrats have 14. More importantly, the Republicans have five incumbents retiring -- including some in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio and North Carolina where it will be much harder for the GOP to hold the seat in an open race.
He will get my vote too, if he gets the nomination.
Nice trial balloon
If anyone thinks that “the system” will allow Trump back in office after they
Released the virus to kill hundreds of thousands and destroy the economy,
Allowed cities to burn in violence by standing down,
Risked discovery of massive election fraud,
all to take out Trump, well, you’re deluding yourselves.
It’s not going to happen. The system will now keep him out of office at ALL costs.
Trump DeSantis 2024.
^ This + 1 We need a good solid twelve years to try an undo the deep state.
“1. The Republicans DO NOT win control of the House.
2. The GOP loses Senate seats.”
You are correct! As long as the leaders are McConnell and McCarthy there is no point in voting for these clowns as nothing will change. They have been a major cause of our problems and will not change.
It has been almost half a year now since many republicans were tearing up their voting cards and swearing that the GOP was dead to them, what has changed? Nothing!
If the Senate and the House Republicans want to be in power come 2022 then they better act NOW to remove the current leadership, otherwise, forget about it!
Finally, Trump needs to be speaking out about the injustice that is currently taking place in D.C. with all the political prisoners be railroaded.
i’d go for deSantis for Prez with Trump as Speaker of the House. we need a double-pronged approach.
Unfortunately, Florida is a must win for the GOP. Per the 12th Amendment, The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves…. So unless Trump changes his residency, this might present a problem. The electors from Florida will not be able to vote for both the winning presidential and vice presidential candidates since they have to cast at least one vote for someone from a state other than their own. So if the election is close, Trump may be elected President, but the Dem may be elected VP.
“All this talk is entirely premature.
The 2022 midterms are going to be critical for 2024.”
Exactly correct and Amen.
No one loves Trump more than me. It is a political ETERNITY between now and then.
Tables could turn and then turn again. No one knows what the political landscape will look like then.
It could be DeSantis because Trump might have already served his two terms by then.
It might turn out that DeSantis is really a woman and wanted to compete in the “presidential men’s club” elections.
So yes, lets take a breath and wait just a little while.
Stop posting Rino BS.
I want our Gov. DeSantis to stay in office for another term
and after Trump serves another term hopefully with Pompeo
as VP then DeSantis being a very young man can find his way
in as President.
Republican leadership perhaps. But the Republican base seems solidly in Trump's camp.
If these poll numbers are right, it’s most likely because Trump has remained fairly quiet over the last 5 months. He’s having a rally this weekend, if it is filled to overflowing like he used to get, and he keeps up the rallies, he will again be #1.
“We need to win next time”
Schlicter has lost his mind.
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