Posted on 06/14/2021 11:21:42 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
Endgame, Set, Match
It’s common knowledge, at this point, that artificial intelligence will soon be capable of outworking humans — if not entirely outmoding them — in plenty of areas. How much we’ll be outworked and outmoded, and on what scale, is still up for debate. But in a new interview published by The Guardian over the weekend, Nobel Prize winner Daniel Kahneman had a fairly hot take on the matter: In the battle between AI and humans, he said, it’s going to be an absolute blowout — and humans are going to get creamed.
“Clearly AI is going to win [against human intelligence]. It’s not even close,” Kahneman told the paper. “How people are going to adjust to this is a fascinating problem.”
Why listen to Daniel Kahneman? His 2011 book, “Thinking, Fast and Slow” — over two million copies sold — is one of the most influential tomes in the field of behavioral economics, exploring how and why humans think the way they think (the “fast” thinking of the title being intuitive; the “slow” thinking being rational), and what leaves us prepared (or unprepared) to make decisions about our future. But moreover, he won his 2002 Nobel Prize for pioneering “prospect theory,” which explains how people rationalize the difference between gains and losses, and how their thresholds for risk aversion and risk appetite work.
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I thoroughly enjoyed “Thinking, Fast and Slow”, but that doesn’t persuade me that Kahneman is a prophet. I’ve experienced 60 years of reports that computers are about to surpass humans. Still waiting...
If machines did manage to take all our jobs away, then who could afford and want to buy the goods and services that they provide? It doesn’t seem very sustainable.
Well, we all have something to look forward to, don’t we?
What a coincidence then, about your FR name. Congrats! You’ve got a leg up..
Oh hell just unplug the damn things.
And it likely never will.
No matter what they do computers remain what they always were, big filing systems.
Humans dreamed up and implemented Russia Russia Russia and Trump coup.
All machines just did what they were programmed to do.
That is not intelligence anymore then a rock falling down a hill chooses where to go.
What a coincidence then, about your FR name. Congrats! You’ve got a leg up..
LOL!!! Well...they’re more productive!
I agree and that's what concerns me.
Currently, 10% of the population has an IQ of 80 or below. The US Army won't take them in the belief (probably rightly) that such people cannot be trained to perform any useful work.
As automation increases, there may be less need for burger flippers with IQs of 90 or below. Meanwhile the AI that we already have today performs a lot of white collar work -- a lot of legal work is handled by machines now, and the typical run-of-the-mill lawyer is outclassed.
One way or another I think we are heading to a society in which an increasing percentage of people have no significant labor to contribute. 10% today? 20% tomorrow? What happens when half the people have no labor to contribute? And how will the other half feel? The people who still "have to work"? That's going to be a problem.
The devil makes work for idle hands. Even if we had a bunch of automated farms and automated factories and we could send lots of "stuff" to people at home who no longer need to contribute, I figure those people will get bored and just start causing trouble. Kind of like Portland.
What's the solution? I don't know. But I think The Powers That Be have come to the conclusion that we have far too many people. Don't need 'em. We have machines now. So, what happens to the "excess people"? I don't know, but I haven't been vaccinated.
This is correct and terrifying.
In the future everybody will make a living as ‘influencers’.
My dad took me to the drive-in to see that flick on a twin bill with The Andromeda Strain in 1971.
Maybe “artifical intelligence” will let humans live if we sacrifice our Nobel Laurates in economics.
I long ago thought that a world where robots took care of our every need could actually make socialism a practical possibility. We can all relax and be provided for with perfect “equity”.
But the roots of its advocacy are envy and contempt for others. Even if we experienced identical material outcomes, there are still all sorts of things that we can be jealous of each other about or disdain each other for. And then there are all those idle hands that you speak of. Robots can’t fix any of that, regardless of how transcendentally brilliant they become.
Maybe we are all part of an AI network already.
Automated processing can already do lots of useful stuff better than humans can, when set up by humans to do it. However to call this processing “intellegence” seems to me a category mistake unless we mean it metaphorically. As in a “smart phone” or a computer program “smart enough” to deal with particular use cases. None of these processes think or have apprehensions. None of them realize: cogito ergo sum.
That hasn't even come close to happening yet. I did get myself married but I can't expect my wife to be like a robot. I have to cook for her too sometimes.
You have it upside down. It’s actually 25 h o’clock.
Yes, it means SCIENCE!!!
“What they know is what the are programmed to be and believe and anything that is abhorrent to this leads them to responses seeking to change the mind of the other to meet their model”
So in other words all that needs to be done if confronted by an AI thingy is tell it to FO?
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