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'Herd Immunity' Not Possible in U.S., Experts Say, But We May Not Need It
PJ Media ^ | 05/05/2021 | Rick Moran

Posted on 05/05/2021 8:19:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s becoming increasingly clear as the pandemic continues to wind down that the goal of achieving “herd immunity” in the U.S. won’t be possible — at least, as it’s defined by public health officials. Too many of us decline to be vaccinated for the U.S. to meet the target goal of 70-90 percent of citizens who have either been vaccinated or contracted Covid-19.

Instead, we’ve got to accept the fact that the virus will become a “manageable threat” and continue to bedevil the world for years to come.

“The virus is unlikely to go away,” said Rustom Antia, an evolutionary biologist at Emory University in Atlanta. “But we want to do all we can to check that it’s likely to become a mild infection.”

Part of the problem is the coronavirus itself. The virus is mutating at an alarming rate. Some of the variants have been shown to be more infectious. Some are more virulent and cause more severe symptoms.

But so far, the vaccines that have been approved for use have demonstrated great effectiveness against all Covid variants. That’s the good news. The bad news is that some virologists believe that a variant is going to come along that is resistant to the current crop of vaccines. Then what?

For the moment, this scenario is unlikely. It’s probable that the vaccine will give at least some protection, which means fewer hospitalizations and deaths regardless of what variant is causing the infection.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19; herdimmunity
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To: Salamander; metmom

41 posted on 05/05/2021 1:14:11 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Salamander

They sure try ;-)


42 posted on 05/05/2021 1:14:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Salamander

Exactly.

Considering we don’t even know WHAT, exactly, they’re shedding.


43 posted on 05/05/2021 1:15:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

The utter lack of self awareness is stunning.


44 posted on 05/05/2021 1:15:35 PM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Jane Long

45 posted on 05/05/2021 1:17:00 PM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Salamander

LOL....herd immunity was likely reached MONTHS ago!


46 posted on 05/05/2021 1:18:34 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: entropy12

It does NOT create antibodies in the body.
And that’s the problem.

What is the problem, is that it tells your body to make spike protein.

And the spike protein causes all kinds of problems all on its lonesome, even when it isn’t attached to the coof virus.

And that’s what researchers are beginning to find out and publicize.


47 posted on 05/05/2021 1:21:11 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Jane Long

As if it was really necessary for this faux phlu.


48 posted on 05/05/2021 1:22:39 PM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: DugwayDuke; kearnyirish2; bagster; bitt; Jane Long; ransomnote; numberonepal

Look! This turkey is telling us to trust the CDC.

Try looking up what they’ve said about masking over time since this started.

Because SCIENCE!™


49 posted on 05/05/2021 1:23:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Salamander

Lots of fear going on. We also have in house doctors pushing vaccines and such. Maybe they never took an oath.


50 posted on 05/05/2021 1:33:49 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: metmom

The Branch Covidians seem to be growing in number on FR.

Very telling given how depraved our society has become.

I’m not surprised though.


51 posted on 05/05/2021 2:33:46 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: DugwayDuke; metmom; Jane Long; ransomnote

Your response presumes the entire BS narrative: that asymptomatic transmission is significant, that masks/distancing work, that shutdowns work and are necessary, that people who keep up their immune systems/vitD/zinc can still be significant in disease transmission. All false. Of course you won’t agree. The great thing is that in a free country, we healthy people are free to tell you technocrats to shove it up your rear ends, and, if necessary, to do so with whatever tools are at hand.


52 posted on 05/05/2021 2:57:59 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SecAmndmt

Yup, there’s only one answer for treatment of COVID by big pharma leftist shills and that’s the “vaccine”.

They won’t even allow that there might be other options. Or even allow them to be used.


53 posted on 05/05/2021 3:02:00 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: grey_whiskers
Look! This turkey is telling us to trust the CDC.

Our FR provax nutcases tell us they are conservative, and then appeal to the authority of an organization which is ideological and probably full of anti-gunners, like the AMA and AAP. AND they are promoting the Dem narrative on everything related to the scamdemic

If it walks like a Dem and talks like a Dem, then it is a Dem.
54 posted on 05/05/2021 3:04:36 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SecAmndmt

SecAmndmt wrote: “Your response presumes the entire BS narrative: that asymptomatic transmission is significant, that masks/distancing work, that shutdowns work and are necessary, that people who keep up their immune systems/vitD/zinc can still be significant in disease transmission. All false. Of course you won’t agree.”

Your response assumes that I favor masking, lockdowns, all the CV mitigation measures. I do not. I simply answered a question of why someone would insist that those who’ve been vaccinated continue to wear masks. While I don’t agree with them, I can understand their reasons for insisting.


55 posted on 05/05/2021 3:56:33 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Jane Long

Jane Long wrote: “How about we all go about our own business, as we did BEFORE this PlanDEMic, and take our chances on catching whatever might be out there....oh, my!!”

How about you anti-vaxxers quit spreading false and misleading information in an attempt to discourage people from taking a safe and effective vaccine?


56 posted on 05/05/2021 4:04:24 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

are you a medical professional???...


57 posted on 05/05/2021 4:13:56 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: DugwayDuke

DugwayDeepTool wrote: “How about you anti-vaxxers quit spreading false and misleading information in an attempt to discourage people from taking a safe and effective vaccine?”

There you go, again, with the false, lefty labels. Anti-vaxxers??

Seriously?? That’s all you could pull out of your old, tired and tattered Alinsky book?

How many times do I have to tell you that most, if not all, who are merely questioning/demanding to know the safety and efficacy of these UNPROVEN, EXPERIMENTAL and seemingly dangerous shots are NOT anti-vaxxers?

I know that I have had (as have my family members) REAL, proven vaccines, all of our lives.

What false and misleading information am I spreading about these shots?

You’re the one spreading THAT horse manure by stating they’re safe and effective. The jury is out on the safety and the effectiveness seems to be slipping on your memes, too.


58 posted on 05/05/2021 4:25:38 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: grey_whiskers

I am not in medical field, but I have great powers of observation and common sense. I see 150,000,000 Americans already have at least 1 shot of covid vaccine, and I have not seen reports of mass problems, much less mass deaths.

I have talked to dozens of seniors in my Florida condo community, almost all are vaxxed, and have not heard of a single serious problem other than mild flu like symptoms for a couple of days following the 2nd shot.


59 posted on 05/06/2021 7:04:15 AM PDT by entropy12
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To: DugwayDuke

I mentioned none of those entities and have referenced no others.

Their lack of credibility stems from their own failures.


60 posted on 05/06/2021 9:08:12 AM PDT by KEVLAR ( )
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