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The 45th President's Answer to Article of Impeachment:
https://threadreaderapp.com ^ | 02 February 2021 | Trump's Defense Team

Posted on 02/02/2021 10:20:49 AM PST by Red Badger

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: articles; brucecastor; djt; hor; impeachment; senate; trump; trumpimpeachtrial; trumplawyer
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To: Red Badger

Thanks Badger for copying the document into Free Republic.


121 posted on 02/02/2021 1:42:50 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the gov out of medicine, education and forests!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Regardless of the true, unaltered vote, the communists in congress certified the tainted ballots of the election and ChiCom Joe Buyden was sworn in as president.


122 posted on 02/02/2021 1:48:44 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Texas Eagle
Can some legal beagle dumb this down a little? Asking for a friend.

There's a little more to it than the other commenters pointed out. Yes, the main thrust is that the Senate lacks jurisdiction, but there are some other important points:

-- Trump denies that he committed any crime.

-- The speech for which Trump was impeached is protected by the 1st Amendment.

-- Conviction would constitute an unconstitutional bill of attainder.

-- As further support for the position that the trial is unconstitutional, they make an argument I haven't seen much: Removal from office is the "prerequisite active remedy," and thus the proceeding is essentially moot. They're basically arguing that the Constitution does not provide for disqualification from office uncoupled from removal from office. It's a clever argument and might be a persuasive one.

-- Finally, and this may be the best point of all: They point out that the House has essentially charged multiple counts in a single article of impeachment. Under Senate rules, an article of impeachment is indivisible and must be voted on in their entirety--you can't vote "guilty" on one part of an article and "not guilty" on another. Trump's lawyers make the correct constitutional objection that this article violates the Constitution's requirement that conviction be by two-thirds vote because it would render any verdict fatally ambiguous. It would be impossible to tell whether two-thirds voted to convict on the same count.

For example: The article basically alleges that Trump committed a crime by saying A and also committed a crime by saying B. It's possible Senators 1 through 33 think Trump is guilty because he said A but not because he said B, while Senators 34 through 67 think Trump is guilty because he said B but not A. If they can vote "guilty" if they believe Trump committed ANY crime made out in the article, then Trump could be convicted even though no 67 Senators agree on whether he committed any particular crime.

That last objection sets up a great closing argument: If you do not believe the managers have proven that Trump is guilty of ALL counts made out in the article of impeachment, you MUST vote "not guilty."

This is great because the name of the game is to give Senators political cover to vote "not guilty."

123 posted on 02/02/2021 1:54:28 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: Beave Meister
It’s too late. Nothing can change the fact that Biden is the 46th President. There is nothing in the books that can overturn Biden’s swearing in. It’s over for Trump’s Administration. As much as I would love to see something happen to reverse that it can’t be undone at this point.

There's a lot of goings-on that just don't make sense. Trump never said "concede" or "Biden administration/presidency." He is still remaining active. He has not appeared or sounded defeated. Why do you believe he would go quietly into the night?

124 posted on 02/02/2021 1:57:06 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I notice that they are saying he is no longer “ President” .. .in quotes.. hmmmmmmmm as if he is quoting what THEY are saying


125 posted on 02/02/2021 1:57:31 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Red Badger

Bookmarked.


126 posted on 02/02/2021 2:00:09 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: frogjerk

“If Congress makes a law ...” Yes, as I wrote, the Supreme Court judges Congressional legislation, whether it is constitutional or not. The Supreme Court cannot act directly on Congressional actions, but only when a case is brought into the court via the legal process within the Judicial branch of government.

However, Congressional impeachment is not a law, not a piece of legislation. It is also not a court that is tied to the Judicial branch of government. It is a special right of Congress granted to it by the Constitution as part of the separation of powers. When the House impeaches and the Senate tries that impeachment it is holding an unique type of court which was established by the framers to be the legislative check on the power of the executive.

The Constitution says Congress has the SOLE power of impeachment, but that impeachment is restricted to those holding office as a means of removing them outside the normal election process due to extreme crimes.

I totally agree with you that what we are seeing now in President Trump’s second impeachment is unconstitutional. However, the Senate did not agree that it is - so here we are.


127 posted on 02/02/2021 2:00:22 PM PST by Madam Theophilus
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To: The Pack Knight

[Either (1) the earlier reports about why Trump and his first team parted ways was BS]


That’s the media’s modus operandi - to suggest chaos in GOP administrations. Isn’t it so much better if we have an orderly march towards left-wing dictatorship? Trump did help them a little with his random tweets. Dubya helped them by not responding. Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.


128 posted on 02/02/2021 2:01:56 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I notice that they are saying he is no longer “ President” .. .in quotes.. hmmmmmmmm as if he is quoting what THEY are saying


129 posted on 02/02/2021 2:03:17 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: pollywog

sorry for the multiple posts....


130 posted on 02/02/2021 2:04:35 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Texas Eagle

A case can be made that Biden’s quid pro quo in the Ukraine was never investigated so there if the GOP gets back the house next year they will immediately move to charge Biden the way they did trump and more then likely Biden gets impeached in the house


131 posted on 02/02/2021 2:09:45 PM PST by Lod881019
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To: Responsibility2nd

Roberts will take part—He has no choice—The Democrats (Obama) has something on him bigtime. I don’t know what it is but its bad. That is my guess. So, at the last minute he will make up a reason and pound the gavel in the Senate.


132 posted on 02/02/2021 2:12:11 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( ALWAYS GO FORWARD AND NEVER GO BACK.)
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To: Red Badger

What a great job you did of getting that whole thing up so we could read it! Thank you!


133 posted on 02/02/2021 2:16:55 PM PST by CatDancer (President Trump will remain the President in Exile)
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To: Songcraft; Red Badger

I hate that Pelosi beotch with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns!

That is all.


134 posted on 02/02/2021 2:24:28 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Your may be right.

I just hope that in some way, Trump will use this scampeachment to get the truth out regarding election fraud.


135 posted on 02/02/2021 2:29:11 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: The Pack Knight

You missed two:

1. the charge for impeachment is moot because he is no longer president, so it’s unconstitutional

2. speech was taken out of context during the phone call with the GA SoS

This is a legal masterpiece. I can’t wait for Viva Frei’s YouTube response.


136 posted on 02/02/2021 2:29:51 PM PST by Salvavida
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To: Red Badger

Bookmark. I’ll be back in a few hours.


137 posted on 02/02/2021 2:30:39 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Red Badger

As a poster has pointed out, Trump’s term of office ended on January 20, 2021. Because the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States didn’t swear him in as President of the United States on that date, Trump is no longer President. There is nothing wrong in admitting he is no longer President. Trump is just admitting that John Roberts didn’t swear him in as President on January 20, 2021.


138 posted on 02/02/2021 2:36:02 PM PST by convoter2016
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To: Red Badger

i don’t know. pretty weak, imo. language is kinda strange. “admitted in part...” wth. how about we admit nothing...n-o-t-h-i-n-g. because we did nothing wrong.

dear God, please help us. we really need someone with some horse sense defending our populist America First movement and the President. Amen.


139 posted on 02/02/2021 2:36:17 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Dead Corpse

yep


140 posted on 02/02/2021 2:53:16 PM PST by The Mayor (I am outraged at your outrage toward the outrage!)
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