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It has started: Lefty prof says fleeing New Yorkers not a problem because immigrants will replace them
American Thinker ^ | 08/24/2020 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 08/24/2020 7:47:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Blue cities have become socialist hellholes, and not surprisingly, people are fleeing.

High taxes, extended lockdowns, massive crime, and rioting and looting have all driven taxpayers from Portland to New York to pack up and leave their cities, heading to friendlier red climes where rule of law is a thing, taxes are low, businesses are easy to start, and public officials show common sense on COVID risks.  According to the New York Post:

FlatRate Movers said the 100 moves a day it does in the city are very different from previous years.

"We used to move a lot of people from Brooklyn to Manhattan or Queens," said David Giampietro, the company's chief administrative officer. "Now it's the mileage. We're not going 5 miles anymore. It's more like 20, 30, 40" to New Jersey, Connecticut, Long Island and upstate.

More than 16,000 New Yorkers changed their address to Connecticut from March through June, the Hartford Courant reported.

United Van Lines and Mayflower movers said it had done 1,000 out-of-state moves from New York City starting in March, with 28 percent to Florida and California, and 16 percent to Texas and North Carolina.

Writer James Alschuler notes that it's gotten very bad in New York, indeed — so bad that he forecasts that the city won't be recover.  His must-read piece is here.

It ought to be a point of embarrassment for these blue leftist ruling claques that people are fleeing.  People flee the chaos of systemic socialism wherever it is found, sometimes on leaky rafts, sometimes by barreling over walls, and sometimes by UHaul, and all these elites can think is, they're in good company.  Like shortages, people voting with their feet is found wherever socialism is found. 


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: New York
KEYWORDS: immigration; jamesalschuler; newyork; newyorkcity; professor
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, on the bright side, once the ‘big bucks’ pull out the city will be able to transform all the fancy hotels (I guess a lot of them are now bedbug lice infested hellholes with the guests tending to drop trou and do ‘business’ wherever they want) and turn them back into flop houses which will give cheap rents to all.

They could call it the UNurban Renewal plan and -except for demolition of ‘obvious’ real FLEA BAG hotels, there won’t be a lot of expense building new buildings.

Better pray that the requests for ‘rebuilding/renewal’ that was caused by poor leadership are turned aside.

Then again, it took DC many years to rebuild the 7th St corridor after the 68 ‘(mostly) peaceful demonstrations’ which left the area looking like a bombed out zone and neglected.

My ‘favorite’ comparison question is

Which is worse..
An atomic attack on Japanese cities some 70 years ago (which was purportedly going to end civilization)
OR
50 years or so of DEMOCRAT/LIBERAL rule in the nations cities.

Check out pics of Nagasaki or Hiroshima then and now
THEN
Check out pics of Det and other inner cities then and now.

CASE CLOSED!!!


41 posted on 08/24/2020 8:49:43 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: hinckley buzzard

Didn’t matter. West Germans were not allowed in East Berlin anyway.


Those signs were up long before the wall. That’s why the communists built the wall. East Germans could go to Berlin and walk across the street to freedom.


42 posted on 08/24/2020 8:58:17 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: SeekAndFind
out there in Bangalore and Ukraine and Natal, there are people who want to be New Yorkers" who will gladly take their place, bringing their ambition and brainpower.

Professor Hacker apparently is visualizing streams of stockbrokers, venture capitalists, brain surgeons, physicists, and engineers crossing the lone prairie to inhabit his city. A quick visit to downtown LA will disabuse him of that notion and show him what he'll really be getting. It ain't pretty.

43 posted on 08/24/2020 8:59:37 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Yards in NYC will be super immaculate


44 posted on 08/24/2020 9:08:23 AM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: SeekAndFind

Look up the ‘Curley Effect’.


45 posted on 08/24/2020 9:13:00 AM PDT by jjotto (Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah. So this prof sees wisdom in the Rhodesia/Zimbabwe model of induced white flight. I think I am going to prescribe for him a repeat of history 101. Doubt he’ll take the medicine though.


46 posted on 08/24/2020 9:14:24 AM PDT by Migraine ( Liberalism is great (until it happens to YOU).)
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To: Tax-chick
It seems to me that it’s quite accurate to observe that new people, including people with money from all parts of the world, will be moving into New York. For example, South America is imploding again.

Housing prices in New York have been falling for a few months, but the cycle will turn as it always does.

I’m not feeling it. Wealthy foreigners want to leave a socialist dystopia to go to another socialist dystopia exactly why?

What we’re seeing is a cycle of self-destruction of a socialist dystopia. We had another one during the Mayoralty of David Dinkins. The cause of this one is more precipitous than that one, and it’s causing a lot of readjustment in response. The internet is enabling those adjustments, and people who don’t have to live in NYC don’t even have to live in commuting distance of NYC.

It’s not a lack of people, it’s a loss of the economic viability which sustains a population.

Democrats talk of being “woke,” but the cultural impact of this dystopian government of NY (city and state) will reverberate for a long time.


47 posted on 08/24/2020 9:33:29 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I love that socialists always leave out the ‘illegal’ part. Perhaps he could elucidate on how ignorant, unskilled, non English speaking invaders will fill the void of tax contributing residents who have fled the city? Who will fill the void of skilled office workers, executives, renters of expensive properties? How will Wilhelm continue to fund his wife’s playing when there are no more taxes to misappropriate?


48 posted on 08/24/2020 9:55:25 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not without jobs.
Not a lot of immigrants go to longtime static places like Portland OR.


49 posted on 08/24/2020 9:58:08 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Bratch

Metropolis had thinkers and doers.

The modern problem is not either of those.
It is the unemployable, the cannot-think and the cannot-do.
The useless mouths.
No early 20th century dystopic writer anticipated that.


50 posted on 08/24/2020 10:01:34 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: hanamizu

Who wouldn’t have lost a war against the US, UK, and USSR among others?


51 posted on 08/24/2020 10:21:18 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Compared to Buenos Aires or Caracas, New York is in fine shape.

You might be right, but if I believed in gambling, I would bet on the worlds’ rich people’s deciding they’ll keep NYC in play.


52 posted on 08/24/2020 10:21:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
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To: SeekAndFind

How does that rent control thing work in NYC? If someone moves out, is that a green light for landlords to charge new tenants whatever they want?


53 posted on 08/24/2020 10:37:13 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Poor lefty, bodies make replace bodies moving out, but will the skills lost be replaced by those moving in?


54 posted on 08/24/2020 10:42:13 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: SeekAndFind

Good luck with that.


55 posted on 08/24/2020 11:23:13 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: Bonemaker

Don’t forget the French!


56 posted on 08/24/2020 11:41:46 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu

“Don’t forget the French!”

Yes, the underground as well as the same in
other countries like Poland, Czech., Holland etc.


57 posted on 08/24/2020 12:01:23 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s the problem in trying to replace makers with takers: states can’t print money.


58 posted on 08/24/2020 12:02:50 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

59 posted on 08/24/2020 12:07:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Bonemaker

No, I meant that we let the French pretend like they were a full partner of the winning coalition of powers that defeated the Axis. They got occupation zones in Germany, Berlin, Austria, and Vienna.

The movie The Third Man is an interesting view of Vienna after the war. Jeeps with soldiers from each occupying nation, USSR, USA, UK, and France, running around.


60 posted on 08/24/2020 12:38:52 PM PDT by hanamizu
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