Posted on 08/21/2020 11:08:54 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner
(Aug. 21, 2020) At approximately the 20-minute mark in his weekly update from August 14, Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton touched on questions arising last week after former Vice President Joseph Biden announced California U.S. Senator Kamala Harris as his running mate in the November 3 presidential election.
Judicial Watch is a self-described conservative non-profit organization which frequently takes federal and local agencies to court over their refusal or failure to release government documents requested under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).
The question of constitutional eligibility has become a subject which many in the mainstream media ridicule and attempt to silence without delving into the history or intended meaning of the Framers when they insisted that the president and commander-in-chief of the military be a natural born Citizen. That designation was mandated only for the nations chief executive, while members of Congress were required to simply be a citizen and resident in the state they wished to represent for a specific number of years.
Fitton referred to an article by Chapman University Professor of Law John Eastman which focused on the 14th Amendments citizenship provision and whether or not Harriss parents at the time of their daughters birth were lawful permanent residents as opposed to merely temporary visitors, perhaps on student visas issued pursuant to Section 101(15)(F) of Title I of the 1952 Immigration Act. ... continue reading at: https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/08/21/tom-fitton-questions-harriss-eligibility/
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I never got an answer to this and several other questions posed directly to you. So therefore I chalk you off to being a former OBOT and now a KBOT troll out to gas-light the American electorate.
Is this Zoltan you? http://pages.ucsd.edu/~zhajnal/page6/files/Curiculum%20Vita Your WordPress.com account is not active other than an image, etc. Here is mine: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/
and my statement about and question to you about Kamala Harris ...
Kamala Harris was a Jamaican Citizen at Birth. My argument for that statement and evidence: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2020/08/14/u-s-senator-kamala-harris-jamaican-citizen-at-birth/
Mr. 4Zoltan: Do you agree with that statement regarding Kamala Harris being a Citizen at Birth of Jamaica via her Jamaican foreign national father sojourning in the USA? Does it matter to you that Kamala, a dual-Citizen at birth, and possibly more divided allegiances at birth, would be serving in the office of Vice President and one heart beat or a 25th Amendment mental health challenge cognitive decline issue away from being the Commander in Chief of our Military? Where in your unsupported by premises and argument and conclusion using a Euler Diagram to prove the truth or fallacy of your argument do you place Kamala Harris?
Why would the founders have to write an exemption for themselves if citizen was all you needed to become president? The exemption is right there in the clause.
Do you believe natural born citizen and citizen are one in the same? If so why the need for the exemption? They were all citizens at the time of the writing.
But NONE were natural born citizens, thus the exemption. And you say a history lesson can not help.......
What if a foreign group, known for intelligent off-spring, sent tens of thousands of women to the USA to have anchor babies?
What if that group is planning for one of the anchor babies to become president.
What if this foreign group has lots of money to influence legislators and political parties, and wants to slowly weaken the constitutional natural born citizen requirement for CIC?
What if you’ve been listening to their agents and don’t know it.
The USA is a valuable prize that many groups are vying for. Right now it’s in the hands of domestic criminals, but they won’t be able to hold onto it for long. They’re pikers compared to the groups that want to peel it away from them.
Yep. The one thing that none of the Obama and Harris and Cruz and Rubio are eligible crowd can explain is why the exemption is in the text.
Because to explain the exemption is to explain the natural born clause.
No, I am not the polisci professor. Have never even heard of him.
No, I dont care that she might be a Jamaican citizen at birth, just as I didnt care that Ted Cruz was a Canadian at birth.
As I said the laws of other countries have no bearing on who can be president of the United States.
Thank you for clearing that up re the Professor. And also your clear cut statement of your position that you do not care if a person born with foreign citizenship at birth (as recognized by U.S. law Kamala Harris is a dual-Citizen at birth) and thus with divided allegiance and thus foreign influence at birth is allowed to serve as Vice President. John Jay and George Washington who got the “natural born Citizen” requirement into the presidential eligibility clause and the writers and supporters of the 12th Amendment (last line) in 1804 would not be impressed or agree with your stated position. See: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/johnjay1787lettertogeorgewashington.pdf
the forged PDF file, was printed out on a printer and a forged seal was placed on it and only Ms. Guthrie was allowed to allegedly hold it and photograph it
Your explanation is IMPOSSIBLE.
The document photoed by Guthrie could have created the pdf but the pdf could not have been printed out and use to create the document photoed by Guthrie.
The document Guthrie photoed is at higher resolution than the pdf.
Some of them argue she is eligble, but others think she is not but the law doesn;t concern itself with this violation, so debate and anger is just wasted effort.
The cases against Cruze and Obama and McCain were sound too. Literally hundreds of court cases.
Ted Roosevelt was opposed to dual nationality yet recognized that it existed. He wrote about a guy born in New Orleans to an alien father and a US citizen mother and therefore had dual citizenship. Roosevelt said the guy (P.A. Lelong Jr) was eligible to be President.
BTW, it is possible to be born in the US to two US citizen parents and still have dual citizenship.
Good posting!
Now, batten down the hatches because there are many FReepers who deny the NBC requirement exists and like to argue and demean everyone who believes in the NBC as a key to eligibility for Speaker, VP and POTUS.
Saving this...
Nope. Obama was not a step ahead.
Sure, his mom was a US citizen. However, she was only 18 when he was born (in Kenya). Even if he was born in the US, she could not pass citizenship to him.
The law required that to pass that citizenship to a child, the mother must have lived in the US 5 consecutive years after the age of 15.
Ted Cruz was never a Canadian citizen, although he was born there to permanent US resident parents.
To become a Canadian citizen, his US citizen mother would have had to submit an application before Ted reached the age of 22; she did not do so.
He formally renounced his Canadian citizenship while running for the Presidency.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/229048360/Ted-Cruz-Canadian-Citizenship-Renunciation-Letter
Your point is exactly right.
If the question ever finds its way to the USSC the language of Art2, perhaps along with that of the 14thA, will certainly be given primary consideration (thus, my tagline).
The clear and compelling language of Art2 makes it obvious your point was exactly the concern of the Framers; that was the reason, otherwise the specific clause delaying implementation of NBC as a qualification was unnecessary.
We had just completed a very bloody conflict with England, of course, and such a possibility was uppermost on their minds.
Therefore, and significantly, they expressly rejected "citizen" as the ultimate presidential-CinC qualification and specified the highest form possible, NBC.
If the Framers intended a form higher than "citizen" and it isn't NBC, Deniers ought to ask themselves, what form was it?
It was certainly not "anchor baby", which is perhaps the weakest form.
Ted Cruz’s father was not a U.S. Citizen when Ted was born in Canada. Ted’s father was a Cuban Citizen: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/petition-tedcruznotnaturalborncitizen.pdf
Charles Curtis of Kansas becomes the first Native American to be elected to the United States Senate on January 23, 1907.
His tenure later as Herbert Hoover’s vice president made him the highest-ranking Native American ever to serve in the federal government.
Curtis was born in the Kansas Territory shortly before it became his state. His mother, Ellen Papin, was of French, Kaw, Osage and Potawatomi heritage, making him 3/8 Native American.
As a child, he learned both French and Kansa, the language of the Kaw people, and spent much of his time on the Kaw reservation. He studied law and opened a practice in Topeka, eventually becoming a prosecutor and securing election to the House of Representatives in 1893.
Curtis’ experience made him a proponent of Native American assimilation into American society. He successfully sponsored the Curtis Act of 1898, a law which stripped many Native American communities of their autonomy and paved the way for the selling of their communal lands to private individuals. Still a member of the Kaw nation, he was entitled to and received an allotment of land when his tribe’s lands were divided up.
As Americans did not directly elect their senators until 1914, Curtis was first elected to the Senate by the Kansas legislature. After the 17th Amendment introduced direct election, the people of Kansas elected him three consecutive times.
A gregarious man who valued personal connections, he developed a reputation both as a leader within the Republican Party and as a consensus builder. He held every leadership position during his tenure in the senate and was instrumental in securing passage of the 19th Amendment, which granted women the right to vote. In 1923, he sponsored the first of several unsuccessful attempts to pass the Equal Rights Act.
Commerce Secretary Herbert Hoover named Curtis as his running mate for the 1928 election, which he won in a landslide. Despite his groundbreaking career, near-unanimous respect from his colleagues, and his commitment to women’s rights, Curtis is often overshadowed by Hoover, whose name became synonymous with the stock market crash of 1929 and subsequent Great Depression.
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Charles Curtis of Kansas becomes the first Native American elected to the U.S. Senate
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