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Tom Fitton Questions Harris’s Eligibility
The Post & Email ^ | 21 Aug 2020 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 08/21/2020 11:08:54 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner

(Aug. 21, 2020) — At approximately the 20-minute mark in his weekly update from August 14, Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton touched on questions arising last week after former Vice President Joseph Biden announced California U.S. Senator Kamala Harris as his running mate in the November 3 presidential election.

Judicial Watch is a self-described “conservative” non-profit organization which frequently takes federal and local agencies to court over their refusal or failure to release government documents requested under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

The question of constitutional “eligibility” has become a subject which many in the mainstream media ridicule and attempt to silence without delving into the history or intended meaning of the Framers when they insisted that the president and commander-in-chief of the military be a “natural born Citizen.” That designation was mandated only for the nation’s chief executive, while members of Congress were required to simply be a “citizen” and resident in the state they wished to represent for a specific number of years.

Fitton referred to an article by Chapman University Professor of Law John Eastman which focused on the 14th Amendment’s “citizenship” provision and whether or not Harris’s parents at the time of their daughter’s birth were “lawful permanent residents” as opposed to “merely temporary visitors, perhaps on student visas issued pursuant to Section 101(15)(F) of Title I of the 1952 Immigration Act.” ... continue reading at: https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/08/21/tom-fitton-questions-harriss-eligibility/

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020election; birther; deadend; eligibility; fitton; kamala; kamalaharris; vicepresident
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To: 4Zoltan

I never got an answer to this and several other questions posed directly to you. So therefore I chalk you off to being a former OBOT and now a KBOT troll out to gas-light the American electorate.

Is this Zoltan you? http://pages.ucsd.edu/~zhajnal/page6/files/Curiculum%20Vita Your WordPress.com account is not active other than an image, etc. Here is mine: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/

and my statement about and question to you about Kamala Harris ...

Kamala Harris was a Jamaican Citizen at Birth. My argument for that statement and evidence: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2020/08/14/u-s-senator-kamala-harris-jamaican-citizen-at-birth/

Mr. 4Zoltan: Do you agree with that statement regarding Kamala Harris being a Citizen at Birth of Jamaica via her Jamaican foreign national father sojourning in the USA? Does it matter to you that Kamala, a dual-Citizen at birth, and possibly more divided allegiances at birth, would be serving in the office of Vice President and one heart beat or a 25th Amendment mental health challenge cognitive decline issue away from being the Commander in Chief of our Military? Where in your unsupported by premises and argument and conclusion using a Euler Diagram to prove the truth or fallacy of your argument do you place Kamala Harris?


41 posted on 08/21/2020 7:52:50 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: mlo

Why would the founders have to write an exemption for themselves if citizen was all you needed to become president? The exemption is right there in the clause.

Do you believe natural born citizen and citizen are one in the same? If so why the need for the exemption? They were all citizens at the time of the writing.

But NONE were natural born citizens, thus the exemption. And you say a history lesson can not help.......


42 posted on 08/21/2020 8:02:25 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: walkingdead
Agreed. The eligibility clause makes it very clear that just being a Citizen is not enough unless you were alive when the Constitution was adopted. And I do not think Kamala Harris is that old. She is at best a 14th Amendment "Citizen" and not an Article II "natural born Citizen". Adjectives mean something. And the "natural born" before "Citizen" refers to Natural Law and the Laws of Nature, not man-made Positive Law, Acts, Amendments, Treaties, etc. My Euler Diagram showing kinds of U.S. Citizens and the positions in the circles of the kind of U.S. citizen Kamala Harris is (at best) and the kind of U.S. citizen President Donald Trump is, i.e., a "natural born Citizen" of the United States since both his parents were U.S. Citizens when he was born in the USA.


My supporting argument for the truth of the Euler Diagram: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2020/07/23/u-s-senator-kamala-harris-is-not-a-natural-born-citizen-of-usa-not-eligible-to-be-president-and-cinc-or-vp/
43 posted on 08/21/2020 8:23:57 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: mlo

What if a foreign group, known for intelligent off-spring, sent tens of thousands of women to the USA to have anchor babies?

What if that group is planning for one of the anchor babies to become president.

What if this foreign group has lots of money to influence legislators and political parties, and wants to slowly weaken the constitutional natural born citizen requirement for CIC?

What if you’ve been listening to their agents and don’t know it.

The USA is a valuable prize that many groups are vying for. Right now it’s in the hands of domestic criminals, but they won’t be able to hold onto it for long. They’re pikers compared to the groups that want to peel it away from them.


44 posted on 08/21/2020 8:24:27 PM PDT by Tellurian (Liberty and Justice for All)
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To: CDR Kerchner

Yep. The one thing that none of the “Obama and Harris and Cruz and Rubio are eligible crowd” can explain is why the exemption is in the text.

Because to explain the exemption is to explain the natural born clause.


45 posted on 08/21/2020 8:30:55 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: CDR Kerchner

No, I am not the polisci professor. Have never even heard of him.

No, I don’t care that she might be a Jamaican citizen at birth, just as I didn’t care that Ted Cruz was a Canadian at birth.

As I said the laws of other countries have no bearing on who can be president of the United States.


46 posted on 08/21/2020 9:03:23 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Thank you for clearing that up re the Professor. And also your clear cut statement of your position that you do not care if a person born with foreign citizenship at birth (as recognized by U.S. law Kamala Harris is a dual-Citizen at birth) and thus with divided allegiance and thus foreign influence at birth is allowed to serve as Vice President. John Jay and George Washington who got the “natural born Citizen” requirement into the presidential eligibility clause and the writers and supporters of the 12th Amendment (last line) in 1804 would not be impressed or agree with your stated position. See: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/johnjay1787lettertogeorgewashington.pdf


47 posted on 08/21/2020 9:23:46 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: CDR Kerchner

“the forged PDF file, was printed out on a printer and a forged seal was placed on it and only Ms. Guthrie was allowed to allegedly hold it and photograph it”

Your explanation is IMPOSSIBLE.

The document photoed by Guthrie could have created the pdf but the pdf could not have been printed out and use to create the document photoed by Guthrie.

The document Guthrie photoed is at higher resolution than the pdf.


48 posted on 08/21/2020 9:35:19 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: nesnah

Some of them argue she is eligble, but others think she is not but the law doesn;t concern itself with this violation, so debate and anger is just wasted effort.

The cases against Cruze and Obama and McCain were sound too. Literally hundreds of court cases.


49 posted on 08/21/2020 9:39:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: CDR Kerchner

Ted Roosevelt was opposed to dual nationality yet recognized that it existed. He wrote about a guy born in New Orleans to an alien father and a US citizen mother and therefore had dual citizenship. Roosevelt said the guy (P.A. Lelong Jr) was eligible to be President.

BTW, it is possible to be born in the US to two US citizen parents and still have dual citizenship.


50 posted on 08/21/2020 9:39:43 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: CDR Kerchner

Good posting!

Now, batten down the hatches because there are many FReepers who deny the NBC requirement exists and like to argue and demean everyone who believes in the NBC as a key to eligibility for Speaker, VP and POTUS.


51 posted on 08/22/2020 4:54:29 AM PDT by octex
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To: KamalaKancel

Saving this...


52 posted on 08/22/2020 4:57:20 AM PDT by octex
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To: CDR Kerchner
For me, the simplest explanation as to how dangerous this lackadaisical interpretation of the natural born citizen clause has become is that currently, there is a child growing up and being educated in China who will someday become President of the United States.
53 posted on 08/22/2020 5:08:10 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: walkingdead

Nope. Obama was not a step ahead.

Sure, his mom was a US citizen. However, she was only 18 when he was born (in Kenya). Even if he was born in the US, she could not pass citizenship to him.

The law required that to pass that citizenship to a child, the mother must have lived in the US 5 consecutive years after the age of 15.


54 posted on 08/22/2020 5:08:29 AM PDT by octex
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To: 4Zoltan

Ted Cruz was never a Canadian citizen, although he was born there to permanent US resident parents.

To become a Canadian citizen, his US citizen mother would have had to submit an application before Ted reached the age of 22; she did not do so.


55 posted on 08/22/2020 5:57:56 AM PDT by octex
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To: octex

He formally renounced his Canadian citizenship while running for the Presidency.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/229048360/Ted-Cruz-Canadian-Citizenship-Renunciation-Letter


56 posted on 08/22/2020 6:06:58 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: liberalh8ter
...a child growing up and being educated in China who will someday become President of the United States.

Your point is exactly right.

If the question ever finds its way to the USSC the language of Art2, perhaps along with that of the 14thA, will certainly be given primary consideration (thus, my tagline).

The clear and compelling language of Art2 makes it obvious your point was exactly the concern of the Framers; that was the reason, otherwise the specific clause delaying implementation of NBC as a qualification was unnecessary.

We had just completed a very bloody conflict with England, of course, and such a possibility was uppermost on their minds.

Therefore, and significantly, they expressly rejected "citizen" as the ultimate presidential-CinC qualification and specified the highest form possible, NBC.

If the Framers intended a form higher than "citizen" and it isn't NBC, Deniers ought to ask themselves, what form was it?

It was certainly not "anchor baby", which is perhaps the weakest form.

57 posted on 08/22/2020 8:14:45 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Two hoaxes; George Floyd was murdered; the U.S. Constitution does not define "natural born citizen".)
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To: frog in a pot
Excuse me:
...delaying implementation of NBC as the sole qualification
58 posted on 08/22/2020 8:31:44 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Two hoaxes; George Floyd was murdered; the U.S. Constitution does not define "natural born citizen".)
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To: octex

Ted Cruz’s father was not a U.S. Citizen when Ted was born in Canada. Ted’s father was a Cuban Citizen: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/petition-tedcruznotnaturalborncitizen.pdf


59 posted on 08/22/2020 10:11:01 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: KamalaKancel

Charles Curtis of Kansas becomes the first Native American to be elected to the United States Senate on January 23, 1907.

His tenure later as Herbert Hoover’s vice president made him the highest-ranking Native American ever to serve in the federal government.

Curtis was born in the Kansas Territory shortly before it became his state. His mother, Ellen Papin, was of French, Kaw, Osage and Potawatomi heritage, making him 3/8 Native American.

As a child, he learned both French and Kansa, the language of the Kaw people, and spent much of his time on the Kaw reservation. He studied law and opened a practice in Topeka, eventually becoming a prosecutor and securing election to the House of Representatives in 1893.

Curtis’ experience made him a proponent of Native American assimilation into American society. He successfully sponsored the Curtis Act of 1898, a law which stripped many Native American communities of their autonomy and paved the way for the selling of their communal lands to private individuals. Still a member of the Kaw nation, he was entitled to and received an allotment of land when his tribe’s lands were divided up.

As Americans did not directly elect their senators until 1914, Curtis was first elected to the Senate by the Kansas legislature. After the 17th Amendment introduced direct election, the people of Kansas elected him three consecutive times.

A gregarious man who valued personal connections, he developed a reputation both as a leader within the Republican Party and as a consensus builder. He held every leadership position during his tenure in the senate and was instrumental in securing passage of the 19th Amendment, which granted women the right to vote. In 1923, he sponsored the first of several unsuccessful attempts to pass the Equal Rights Act.

Commerce Secretary Herbert Hoover named Curtis as his running mate for the 1928 election, which he won in a landslide. Despite his groundbreaking career, near-unanimous respect from his colleagues, and his commitment to women’s rights, Curtis is often overshadowed by Hoover, whose name became synonymous with the stock market crash of 1929 and subsequent Great Depression.

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Charles Curtis of Kansas becomes the first Native American elected to the U.S. Senate

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/charles-curtis-of-kansas-becomes-first-native-american-senator


60 posted on 08/22/2020 10:12:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Our choice 11/3/2020!!!:: Vote for jobs, not rioting mobs!)
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