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We Should Consider Starting Covid-19 Vaccinations Now (I agree, on strictly volunteer basis)
Forbes ^ | August 2, 2020 | Steven Salzberg

Posted on 08/03/2020 1:09:30 AM PDT by cba123

Development of new Covid-19 vaccines is proceeding at a furious pace, which is good news for the world. We already have two vaccines in phase 3 trials in the US and Europe; each of these trials which will vaccinate many thousands of people, and then wait to see how many get infected. If the vaccines work, then in a few months’ time we’ll be able to start large-scale production.

But we don’t have to wait. Both of these vaccines (from Moderna and Oxford University/Astra Zeneca) have already been shown, in phase 1 trials, to be safe and probably effective. That’s why the companies are moving ahead and giving each vaccine to 30,000 more people: they are fairly confident that the vaccines are safe. The NY Times reports that 3 other Covid-19 vaccines are also in phase 3 trials: one from BioNTech and Pfizer, and two from Chinese companies, Sinopharm and Sinova Biotech.

So why not start administering millions of doses right now? We should.

(I agree)

(Please see link for full article)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19
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To: trebb

Hell, no! I’ve been on FR for over twenty years, and have NEVER been tempted to hit the ‘abuse’ button. But over the past two weeks, I have been tempted to hit it on two separate occasions.


81 posted on 08/03/2020 5:55:36 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: DoodleDawg

they have no idea what is safe or not. long-term effects have to be followed-up on and studied.

look at the history of china’s original SARS (1) vaccine. absolutely not safe. I have read the cdc originally wanted to roll it out here but the NIH nixed it.


82 posted on 08/03/2020 5:56:11 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: poinq

“The US drug makers test vaccines over a very long period before they are allowed to widely distribute the vaccine. And even when a vaccine is approved it is often associated with adverse reactions. “

the concern here is that it seems very likely that this vaccine may become mandatory before almost any mid- to long-term safety data has been developed, and given everything else we are seeing, significant issues may simply be supressed.


83 posted on 08/03/2020 6:00:43 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: .30Carbine

Outstanding post!


84 posted on 08/03/2020 6:09:16 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: cba123

And by the way and for what it is worth...
To date, there has never been a successful coronavirus vaccine made, due to the nature of the virus. Additionally, past attempts to create a coronavirus vaccine have ONLY RESULTED IN LEAVING THE VACCINATED PERSON WITH A HIGHER CHANCE OF SERIOUS ILLNESS AND DEATH WHEN LATER EXPOSED TO ANOTHER STRAIN OF THE VIRUS, AND ANOTHER MUTATED VIRUS WILL SHOW UP AS SURE AS NIGHT FOLLOWS DAY.


85 posted on 08/03/2020 6:10:18 AM PDT by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

The data doesn’t add up to your claims, however, you are free to do as you will. The flip side of that is so an I. Nobody attempt to force this on me and I won’t care.


86 posted on 08/03/2020 6:13:09 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: mrsmith

My creator is God of the holy Bible which is his word. According to many, that makes me ignorant. Jesus must by ignorant too because he says the only way to the Father is through him.


87 posted on 08/03/2020 6:14:49 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: mewzilla

It is possible I am part of the phase 3 trial
Just sayin

While I know you are not playing this game there are a whole lot of false flags on the vaccine out there. And all of the sudden people who support medical freedom are all about broadcasting false information to make sure people don’t get vaccinated.

It’s disgusting.


88 posted on 08/03/2020 6:15:27 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: WoofDog123

‘the concern here is that it seems very likely that this vaccine may become mandatory before almost any mid- to long-term safety data has been developed’

I think what will be mandatory is a visible sign that one has received the vaccine; the lack of such a marker will mandate the individual to wear the mask...


89 posted on 08/03/2020 6:18:38 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: cba123

Why don’t we do this:

LINE # 1 is for those who want to get a vaccine.

LINE # 2 is for those who want to get HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE.


90 posted on 08/03/2020 6:19:45 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Bulwyf

Don’t pervert our Lord to your desires.

But you don’t care I know.


91 posted on 08/03/2020 6:19:54 AM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

I won’t be forced into any vaccine, how is that doing anything wrong?


92 posted on 08/03/2020 6:21:17 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Fine.
But don’t pervert our Lord.


93 posted on 08/03/2020 6:25:21 AM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: cba123

The terrified sheep driving in their cars, with their masks on, need to be able to take the injection.


94 posted on 08/03/2020 6:26:12 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

LINE # 3 is for those who want to be infected and get the sniffes over with and contribute to herd immunity.


95 posted on 08/03/2020 6:26:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: mrsmith

Good sermon on proverbs yesterday. Talking about people being simple or fools oe wise. Most are simple or fools. Look around here for example. Everyone is up in arms over this virus. Meanwhile, it was all planned years ago, part of the method to bring us under a one world order. Any Christian who doesn’t see that is a fool.


96 posted on 08/03/2020 6:28:19 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: mrsmith
Covid infectees are infectious to others before they have symptoms...

We really don't know this for sure because there are so many false positives due to PCR hitting on fragments of the virus in people's systems but they never really had the symptom. I believe and predict in several years it will be found out that this was less deadly than the flu and was less contagious than the common flu.

97 posted on 08/03/2020 6:36:14 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: Bulwyf

” Any Christian who doesn’t see that is a fool. “

Seriously, your intentional and blatant perversion of our Lord is disgusting.


98 posted on 08/03/2020 6:39:10 AM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: cba123

Paid volunteers in Africa? Prisons? Or to open schools? Immigration centers?


99 posted on 08/03/2020 6:43:17 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: frogjerk

Seen several responsible studies (IMO) that show just before, and just after, the appearance of symptoms is the most infectious time of infectees.


100 posted on 08/03/2020 6:44:25 AM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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