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These states would lose House seats under Trump Census order: study
Fox ^ | July 27, 2020 | Ronn Blitzer

Posted on 07/27/2020 8:53:37 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Three states would likely lose seats in the House of Representatives if President Trump's order stands to exclude illegal immigrants from the apportionment process that allocates seats based on the census.

According to a study from the Pew Research Center, California, Florida and Texas would each end up with one less representative than they would otherwise get, based on overall population change.

"The discretion delegated to the executive branch to determine who qualifies as an 'inhabitant' includes authority to exclude from the apportionment base aliens who are not in a lawful immigration status," Trump said in a memorandum issued last Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: apportionment; census; citizens; illegals
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Wonder if Cal can lose 2, that'd be great.
1 posted on 07/27/2020 8:53:37 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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As long as they are Dem congressional districts that are being lost.
2 posted on 07/27/2020 8:55:46 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Congress is based on population. So if a non-citizen is counted, then they get a vote in congress. This should not happen. One citizen one vote, is the standard. Not, one person in the world, one vote. Remember US citizens can vote if they are anywhere in the world. So the rule should be one citizen one vote. And that has been the law.


3 posted on 07/27/2020 8:58:00 AM PDT by poinq
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I should think California would lose one or two, and they already stand to lose one for the first time ever. Maybe they could lose a couple more. That would be excellent.


4 posted on 07/27/2020 8:59:54 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The House of Representatives should be expanded.


5 posted on 07/27/2020 9:00:29 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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I would think that California would lose more than one.


6 posted on 07/27/2020 9:01:15 AM PDT by FreeReign
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So who gains the seats. They mention who loses, who would have lost but gets to keep. Are they the same 3 states that would lose but would keep them?


7 posted on 07/27/2020 9:05:40 AM PDT by pas
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

If I recall correctly, the question on the census form as to whether one was a legal resident of the US was removed from the census form. I filled the form out several months ago and do not recall seeing that question. If so, then how does one “eliminate” non-legal residents, AKA illegal aliens?


8 posted on 07/27/2020 9:09:01 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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Good point.


9 posted on 07/27/2020 9:12:37 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: TBP

Why expand it?


10 posted on 07/27/2020 9:18:27 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
It would be better if lose 49 seats... 😋
11 posted on 07/27/2020 9:19:25 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-) Trump 2020)
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There’s a strategy that goes if you live in a blue district then put down one person lives here on the census form and if you live in a red district put down a dozen.

Just repeating what I’ve heard...

12 posted on 07/27/2020 9:19:34 AM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump!)
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No mention of NYS in the artcle.

That’s odd.


13 posted on 07/27/2020 9:21:18 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

WHY ARE WE ALLOWING CITIZENS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES
WHO ENTER US ILLEGALLY GRANT THEM RIGHTS
THAT THEIR COUNTRY DENY US HAVING
WHEN WE ENTER THEIRS LEGALLY TO VISIT OR RETIRE ???
The issue of sovereignty should not be allowed to get twisted into being propagandized as “White Nationalism”. Use of that term is usually directed when the immigration issue is brought up to devalue of the protections an American citizen have by being one. When allowing the hordes illegally entering the US through the Mexican border avoid enforcing the reciprocal 2nd class treatment that American citizens get while legally residing in Mexico which of course also includes denial of voting privileges


14 posted on 07/27/2020 9:23:33 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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Yes of course California would lose one seat. Hey maybe California would gain a few seats! These people think we are as dumb as Democrat voters, California would lose at least three and maybe four seats. The seats Texas and Florida would “lose” would be Democrat seats. New York would lose three seats all Republican. In the end Republicans will benefit way more.


15 posted on 07/27/2020 9:27:30 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies)
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This is the rule:

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.

So. Illegal aliens could be "free persons", or they could be "all other persons". They can't be "nobody".

16 posted on 07/27/2020 9:29:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

These states would lose House seats = They will have their proper number.


17 posted on 07/27/2020 9:32:05 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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The census is used to allocate House seats. The census did not have a question about immigration status, legal or otherwise. So how exactly to they plan on excluding them from the congressional allocation?


18 posted on 07/27/2020 9:32:18 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: CdMGuy
It was NEVER on the form. That's what the Repubs were trying to do. But no matter...That's been on many, many forms.

It's about counting illegals.

19 posted on 07/27/2020 9:32:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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When did states begin including illegals in the congressional representation? I had never heard that before this year.


20 posted on 07/27/2020 9:36:50 AM PDT by elpadre
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