Posted on 07/01/2020 10:07:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Weve had close elections before, but political experts are bracing for events that might be unprecedented come November.
Surprisingly large portions of both Republicans and Democrats seem poised to challenge the results of the 2020 presidential election if their side loses. Some even favor authoritarian rule over elections as the best way to run the country. And a new worry for 2020 is the risk that more mail-in voting could delay official results well past Election Day, leaving voters wondering whether it will be Donald Trumps agenda or Joe Bidens, once January arrives.
New research by the Democracy Fund Voter Study Group finds that 38% of Democrats favor a do-over election if their candidate, Joe Biden, wins the popular vote this year but loses the electoral vote, as Hillary Clinton did in 2016. Among Republicans, 11% favor a do-over if Biden wins the electoral vote but President Trump wins the popular vote. In the U.S. system, electoral votes are awarded for each state a candidate wins, rather than for the national tally, and theres no provision for a repeat election if theres a split decision. The electoral vote carries the day.
If Trump wins and theres credible evidence of interference by a foreign governmentas there was in 2016, we now know57% of Democrats say theyd back a do-over election. And if Trump lost but claimed there was voter fraud, 29% of Republicans say it would be appropriate if he refused to leave office.
There are multiple contexts in which people might plausibly be mobilized to reject the legitimacy of the election, political scientist Larry Diamond of Stanford University, who co-authored the Democracy Fund analysis, says in the latest episode of the Yahoo Finance Electionomics podcast.
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That has been the case since 2016.
Heh... smells like DNC PMS BS to me. Of course, it's what's known as a hypothetical scenario.
You can’t redo JUST the Presidential ticket. You’d have to redo ALL of them
Meaning, come Jan. 20, there would be no one in the House or White House, and the President Pro Tem (Chuck Grassley)of the 2/3 left of Senators would be running the show
Edgy voters will throw a tantrum if they don’t commit enough fraud to win against the American people, regardless of the (irrelevant) popular vote.
Too bad. I can get edgy too.
I HOPE THEY DO.
Since 2000, you mean. The Democrats have not accepted the results of a Presidential election they lost since 1988.
That’s probably why the Rats and anarchists (forgive the redundancy) want to defund or abolish the police, so they wouldn’t have as much resistance (on the streets) when Trump wins by a landslide. Of course, they aren’t figuring in the armed citizenry.
So, if Trump would win both the popular vote and the EC..then the Dems would back off? Yeah, right.
I dont want mail in ballots, but if they are going to d it there should be rules. If mail in ballots arent received by Election Day they shouldnt be counted. Also there should be a box where you can hand deliver your vote and get a receipt with your name on it.
I think you are mixing your metaphors before they hatch.
If the Dems don't like the electoral college, they can propose an amendment to the Constitution to go by popular vote. The problem will be that it will then be a race to the bottom of dropping voting age and stuffing ballot boxes in Dem controlled regions.
I would prefer that the electoral college be changed to two at large electors for each state and one for each congressional district like Maine and Nebraska. That way one city's cheating would be limited to a couple of electors instead of spoiling a whole state's worth (presuming that the cheating is in a district which is already a Dem stronghold).
RE: Whoever thought of it was a genius for his time.
Without the electoral college, we would not even have a United States of America. The smaller states refused to join the union for fear that their voices will be minimized by the bigger states of NY, PA and MA. The Electoral College was developed in order to address the concerns of the other states.
This is stupid. The Electors will vote, the Electors’ votes will be sent to Congress, Congress convenes and certifies the votes. And that’s the result.
This article is written with zero concept of how our President is elected and how said election is finalized.
Um, losing the electoral vote isnt edgy
Its losing the election!
RE: The Electors will vote
Yep, and they will be identified and harassed and they and their families threatened with harm.
Right, there is no such thing as a “national popular vote” - that is just a collection of data from completely separate elections that were formed by completely separate entities and statutes.
Give me a break.
Democrats only believe in democratic elections when they win them.
Period.
I would prefer that the electoral college be changed to two at large electors for each state and one for each congressional district like Maine and Nebraska.
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Sorry, but I’m a little slow today. It’s already two senators per state and one elector for each representative district. How is what you’re proposing any different?
And of course, the Constitution was approved conditionally with the Bill of Rights to be added.
It didn't take all 13 states to make the Constitution effective.
‘We are not America we are the UNITED States, which elects the President using the results of the Popular Vote tallies from each state (Electors votes) and the Electoral College results from the States.’
that’s all well and good, but the nonsense of the winner takes all policy that now pervades the system, which had its beginnings in the 1824 election to cheat Jackson in favor of Quincy Adams, deprives the voice of many within the state itself...EV’s need to be allocated by congressional district, as ME and NE are capable of doing...
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