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NYT Says Trump’s Immigration Suspension Includes Visa Workers
Breitbart.com ^ | Neil Munro

Posted on 04/21/2020 7:51:44 AM PDT by wmarshalllives3

President Donald Trump’s temporary suspension of the immigrant inflow includes the routine inflow of non-immigrant visa workers, according to the New York Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: colonization; corporateslavery; h1b; illegalsinvasion; immigration; indenturedservants; india; trumpimmigration; visaworkers
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To: marron

Won’t happen. DHS Head Wolf is #indiaFirst.


21 posted on 04/21/2020 8:26:48 AM PDT by bobcat62
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To: wmarshalllives3

Companies are in business to make money, not to provide jobs.

Marxist societies that place jobs over profits fail


22 posted on 04/21/2020 8:28:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: wmarshalllives3

Our approach to deal with this plague was highly influenced by the death and sickness due to the CCWV ( Chinese Communist Wuhan Virus) reports coming out of Italy.

Most Americans including this one were not aware that that the Italian socialist government had actually allowed the Chinese communists to purchase thus remove Italian ownership of a large segment of their fashion industry producers. Then replace the Italians working at those companies taken over by the Chinese and have them manned by thousands of Chinese nationals allowed to be brought in to work there.

When that CCWV breakout occured in Wuhan the politburo closedoff Wuhan but did not warn the Italian Socialist government or the Pope with whom the Chinese government had good relations with but certainly violated when the socialists should have been informed and allowed to deny those Chinese workers travel to and from China particularly for their New Year while this was occuring. Which Trump did with the exception of only allowing American citizens returning..

Those statistics being reported always indicated the casualties were aged Italians no focus was permitted on China or even if the victims were from China and the emphasis was on the speed of contagion. While doing so also ignored the direct connection those producers have with the Chinese Communist government which owns them.


23 posted on 04/21/2020 8:28:08 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: wmarshalllives3
also deport the once already here. asap.

also end h1b program.

24 posted on 04/21/2020 8:32:03 AM PDT by va22030
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To: bert

“Companies are in business to make money, not to provide jobs.

Marxist societies that place jobs over profits fail.”

Preventing the importation of indentured servants is not Marxism.

I have a bachelors degree in anthropology which is the same as a degree in Marxism and I doubt that you have any true understanding of the miserable nonsense that Marx and Engels vomited upon an unsuspecting world. It’s just some catchphrase you use to excuse and justify your own bad behavior.


25 posted on 04/21/2020 8:34:53 AM PDT by wmarshalllives3 (Free people always face censorship)
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To: wmarshalllives3

You may in fact be correct. I used the term Marxist as anti capitalist.

When it comes to anthropologists, my favorite and the standard is Stephen Likson


26 posted on 04/21/2020 8:43:58 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: txrefugee

Finally. The President is using this “crisis” to further a just cause. How do you like it, Dems?

Exactly! We’ve got 22 million American citizens out of work and the Left wants to pander to visa holders over citizens. Should be interesting.


27 posted on 04/21/2020 8:45:33 AM PDT by Flick Lives (A liberal is someone who worries that somewhere, someone is enjoying life.)
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To: wmarshalllives3
I know many US citizens that are displaced by H1-B visa workers at much lower salaries.

I personally know a very experienced QA (Quality Assurance) person with many yrs experience that's been struggling for yrs to get a job, while thousands of Indian & Chinese folks are flooding into the country displacing them.

New Jersey alone has hundreds of tech companies with hundreds of Indian workers. You will never find anyone there with an english sounding name.

28 posted on 04/21/2020 8:45:40 AM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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To: bert

Replacing citizens with those that do not hold to the values of our society... leads to socialism, sharia or any other number of issues. Replace people... you upend the culture that allows companies to make a profit.


29 posted on 04/21/2020 8:46:41 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: prophetic

At my last large employer there were almost NO non Indians in IT. Seems like some kind of racism at work as well.


30 posted on 04/21/2020 8:48:06 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: RasterMaster

Yep.
It all began with Carly Forina trying to save her job as CEO at HP by outsourcing 10k jobs to India.
I was living in Santa Clara at the time and we heard a constant story of Americans forced to train in their replacements.

“Train them in or you will be terminated today”
We couldn’t believe it until we heard multiple stories from personal friends.

In the end, it didn’t save HP.
All their good engineers left and now they are the worlds largest, most expensive printer company.

And every 4 years, Carly shows up again trying to convince the GOP-e she is the only one who can win.


31 posted on 04/21/2020 9:01:49 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: StolarStorm
I visited my friend at their last (very short contract) job last yr and 5 of the 10 contractors on their team were from India and Pakistan.

Your experience is obviously different.

32 posted on 04/21/2020 9:07:13 AM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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To: StolarStorm
Some yrs ago I came across a video that someone secretly recorded at a large conference that was being hosted by a large law firm. The invitees were all the HR managers & directors for large companies (IBM, HP, Compaqm, Dell to name a few).

What was the focus of this conference was how they can lower cost by hiring external workers (H1-B Visas and others), and they were teaching the specific ways on how to craft the job descriptions in such a 'creative' way that it would be almost impossible to find an American worker to fill the position.

After the job posts remains unfilled for a few months, they can then goto the State Dept and say how they are having difficulty filling the posts and they needs to hire from outside the USA to fill the jobs.

That practise has been ongoing ever since.

33 posted on 04/21/2020 9:15:13 AM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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To: wmarshalllives3

No Bert is correct and you are wrong. What Bert stated is not limited to small manufacturing. I have a close friend who is small size general contractor. Depending on the job he will employ 5 to 15 laborers. He readily admitted that he employs mostly immigrants because compared to the pool of american laborers he has to choose from; the immigrants reliably show up to work ( many times early ) and stay late if necessary, clean up after themselves, don’t smoke dope during lunch time, and every free minute are not playing with a phone. That is a snapshot of a reality you can choose to believe or not. As the saying goes, there are none so blind that choose not to see.


34 posted on 04/21/2020 9:22:58 AM PDT by Cautious Optimism
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To: wmarshalllives3; bert
In my visits to various small manufacturing companies, they can’t find workers that are drug free, will actually show up for work reliably and will actually work once they are hired.

I worked with an options trader whose family owned factories. He had the same complaint, saying that in the old days they had workers who were drunk, etc., and used it to justify hiring illegal aliens at their plants.

The employers Bert discusses could get better workers if they paid more; or, could deal with the lower productivity if they didn't have to compete with unfair, ruthless foreign competition.

The problem isn't the workers, it's the idiot trade and macroeconomic policies we've adopted over the past few decades.

In the sixties even a drunk could find work in construction or the garment district in New York and still afford an SRO hotel, which is why you didn't see homeless back then. That's how valuable American labor was.

35 posted on 04/21/2020 9:39:33 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: wmarshalllives3

How will the Trump organization run its resorts? They have already asserted in the H2B application that they cannot find Americans to do the work.


36 posted on 04/21/2020 9:49:26 AM PDT by oincobx
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To: Cautious Optimism

I grew up in a blue-collar town, a coal mining town and all those people worked hard. My father was a coalminer and he worked hard. I have friends that still work at the coal mine and the power plant and they are hard-working people and they don’t smoke dope at lunch.

What has happened is that illegal immigration has driven wages down so low in many occupations that most Americans cannot live at the wages that explicative scum are paying. Cut off the exploited cheap illegal labor and then wages will inevitably rise and Americans who are not on their last legs will take the job.

How can you look in the mirror?


37 posted on 04/21/2020 10:18:03 AM PDT by wmarshalllives3 (Free people always face censorship)
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To: pierrem15; wmarshalllives3; bert

pierrem15, you beat me to it. you are 100% correct. Illegal immigration has forced Americans out of many occupations. In my hometown people used to make a good living and raise an entire family working as a carpenter and that just isn’t the case anymore with the low wages.

I hope and expect that under the emergency declared by President Trump that he will soon make E-Verify mandatory for employers. What will the cheap labor express do then?


38 posted on 04/21/2020 10:27:31 AM PDT by wmarshalllives3 (Free people always face censorship)
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To: prophetic

You have to love the extensive list of job criteria that these HR managers post for the magical unicorn candidate they are not really looking for. Nobody could possibly have the those mixes of skillsets. It is hilarious when they ask for 5 to 7 years of experience in a technology that has only been around a year.


39 posted on 04/21/2020 10:33:51 AM PDT by wmarshalllives3 (Free people always face censorship)
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To: StolarStorm
"At my last large employer there were almost NO non Indians in IT."

The Indian guys do bring a certain condescending attitudes towards women with them as well and can be very arrogant too.

I personally witnessed an Indian guy tell another Indian young lady, that if he had his way he would NOT hesitate to kill her if I were not in the room! Suffice to say, I was totally shocked by his outburst and had him reassigned for it.

Ancient caste system was in public display and he felt that she should be his slave or less; but definitely not worthy to be breathing in the same air with him or in the same building.

40 posted on 04/21/2020 11:05:55 AM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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