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Coronavirus 'could be 1,000 times more infectious than SARS', scientists warn as they discover it plagues the body the same way as
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Posted on 02/28/2020 8:00:25 AM PST by TigerClaws

Edited on 02/28/2020 8:34:02 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

The coronavirus could be up to 1,000 times more infectious than SARS because it plagues the body in the same way as HIV and Ebola, scientists warn.

Experts initially presumed the spread of COVID-19 would follow the same trajectory as the SARS outbreak in 2002/3, because the viruses are almost identical genetically.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bioweapon; corona; covid19; ebola; hiv; sars; sarscov2; virus; wuflu; wuhanflu; wuhansars
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To: TigerClaws

Yeah, well when I asked the question, there was no link. That is why I asked. So how do we know that this is legitimate? I don’t trust the Daily Mail anymore the I trust the New York Slimes. 8>)


61 posted on 02/28/2020 8:30:56 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: TigerClaws

I hate to say it, but when I read a sentence as emotionally loaded as the one this phrase came from:

“scientists warn as they discover it plagues the body”

I disbelieve everything in the article and anything written by the same source.

I’ll wait to believe any of this until an objective source confirms it, if that should ever happen.


62 posted on 02/28/2020 8:31:27 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: TigerClaws
I looked up Chinese selling lab animals and find several unattributed, vague items from a few days ago. There are zero details, just supposition or rumor. Don't get me wrong, it sounds very plausible. But it would be good to hear facts. But those are hard to come by in China.
Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab, by Steven W. Mosher, New York Post, February 22, 2020.

And then there is this little-known fact: Some Chinese researchers are in the habit of selling their laboratory animals to street vendors after they have finished experimenting on them.

You heard me right.

Instead of properly disposing of infected animals by cremation, as the law requires, they sell them on the side to make a little extra cash. Or, in some cases, a lot of extra cash. One Beijing researcher, now in jail, made a million dollars selling his monkeys and rats on the live animal market, where they eventually wound up in someone’s stomach.

It's on Breitbart, all over Reddit, PatriotPost, etc.

Then there is this seemingly more credible bit from The Epoch Times, an anti-communist Chinese paper. It seems that maybe the conservative sites above have picked this up. But note that the researcher was jailed and his practice of selling animals ended eight years ago. That doesn't mean others aren't doing it, of course.

Chinese Netizens Question Source of the Coronavirus Outbreak
by Olivia Li, The Epoch Times, February 6, 2020

Xu Bo, a well-known IT magnate and billionaire in China, cited reports and articles to support Wu’s statements.

In his blog, Xu cited a news report about a lawsuit against biologist Li Ning.

Li is an academician of China Engineering Academy, and a former professor at China Agricultural University. His research was focused on transgenic animals in agriculture. The judgment in Li’s case, which came out on Jan. 2 this year, stated that between 2008 and 2012, Li’s lab sold experimental pigs, cows, and milk to local markets. These animal and animal products were bought using research funds; but Li and his fellow colleagues pocketed the money, a total of 10,179,201 yuan ($1,460,304), from the sale of these animals and animal products.

Li was sentenced to 12 years in prison for embezzlement [NOT for selling potentially dangerous animals].


63 posted on 02/28/2020 8:31:34 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TECTopcat

The,measure of infection an estimated R0 of 2.5 (infect 2 to 3 people) would fall well below the R0‘s for measles and pertussis, which tend to be between 12 and 18. These aren’t the only diseases that seem to be more contagious than 2019-nCoV. Nevertheless, an estimated R0 of 2.5 would fall well below the R0‘s for measles and pertussis, which tend to be between 12 and 18. These aren’t the only diseases that seem to be more contagious than 2019-nCoV.

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Thank you.

That’s the most accurate and scientific way of assessing how contagious the virus is.


64 posted on 02/28/2020 8:32:06 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: Artcore

Attracts = attacks


65 posted on 02/28/2020 8:32:36 AM PST by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: TigerClaws

Since you can catch AIDS from toilet seats, is this virus the same?


66 posted on 02/28/2020 8:32:41 AM PST by RonnG (')
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To: allendale
I guess then, that I need to hold off buying property in HongVancouver. Prices should eventually drop precipitously.

Housing supply should skyrocket, as so many Chinese owners succumb to COVID-19 and their kids sell the properties. Likewise, the number of wealthy Chinese looking for homes in the Lower Mainland should also drop. Increased housing supply coupled with decreased demand may make housing almost affordable in Hongcouver!

67 posted on 02/28/2020 8:33:28 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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'Coronavirus 'could be is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times more infectious than SARS', unnamed scientists warn as they discover it plagues the body the same way as HIV and Ebola
68 posted on 02/28/2020 8:33:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Welcome to Mass Quarantinofornia !!!.. Sanctuary State in rapid decline!!!.. Norm's Revenge)
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To: TigerClaws

What a load of crap, there have been Chinese flying here for months and months, give me a break, FEAR FEAR FEAR


69 posted on 02/28/2020 8:34:19 AM PST by GulfMan
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To: null and void

Wait you are the same alarmist that was trying to poke fun at me for suggesting a ~2% mortality rate (that will go down as more sero testing happens) a couple of weeks ago. You were trumpeting a 20% mortality rate by diving deaths by recoveries. I told you that you number would collapse over time and guess what? I was dead on right! Your silly inflated 20% is down to 7% and falling...just like I said.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3814917/posts?page=110#110


70 posted on 02/28/2020 8:34:20 AM PST by tatown
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To: Robert DeLong

shouldn’t trust the media posting on this-just fear mongering and they are rotting for this to bring down Trump-most people don’t realize the common cold is a type of coronavirus-except rate of infection is less


71 posted on 02/28/2020 8:34:23 AM PST by TECTopcat (TopCat)
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To: tatown

Yep, I’m also the guy that said the data shows the death rate has been steadily falling.


72 posted on 02/28/2020 8:36:08 AM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: tatown
LOL,

Ya think?

73 posted on 02/28/2020 8:36:20 AM PST by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Red Badger
Got to go somehow someway, might as well be this I reckon. 8>)

One of the advantages of living in the country and working remotely means my exposure is quite limited. Perhaps I will be among the survivors. 8>)

74 posted on 02/28/2020 8:36:33 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Now that there is grim.


75 posted on 02/28/2020 8:37:09 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: TigerClaws
Sure sounds like a bioweapon...

If it's a bioweapon - and it looks that way - I wonder if the Chinese have 'the cure' - the antidote....

76 posted on 02/28/2020 8:38:03 AM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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To: TigerClaws
We could be looking at all borders and flights closed within the next couple of weeks.

My daughter is in the tourism business and says that Hawaii just cancelled South Korea flights. Not sure if that means all or some flights.

EasyJet to cancel flights as coronavirus hits demand, Feb 27, Yahoo News / Reuters

Coronavirus continues impacting travel as British airlines cancel flights to Italy, Feb 28, Fox News

Coronavirus flight cuts on the rise: United reduces service to Japan, Singapore, Seoul, Feb 28, USA Today

One global recession or maybe depression, coming right up!

77 posted on 02/28/2020 8:39:04 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: null and void; dangus

Imagine mononucleosis doing the same thing.


78 posted on 02/28/2020 8:39:17 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Mariner

OP apologized and provided a link numerous times.
Maybe follow the thread vs whining to the teacher


79 posted on 02/28/2020 8:40:00 AM PST by Bell Bouy II
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To: TigerClaws

Bro there are crazier and crazier stories every day :)

Why not 1,000,000,000 times more?

This will go down as the SILLIEST panic that made men turn to snowflakes in the 21st century :)


80 posted on 02/28/2020 8:40:56 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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