Posted on 01/26/2020 8:21:24 AM PST by Kaslin
I am not suggesting that we not remain alert, nor am I suggesting that we cast caution to the winds, but this present coronavirus will probably be nowhere near as deadly as many Chicken Littles are predicting.
Why?
Because, quite often, it is not the virus itself, but the secondary infections that are so deadly.
The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918–1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs.
Did you catch that? It was bacteria, piggybacking on top of viral damage, that caused the fatalities.
However, unlike 1918, today, medicine has an arsenal of antibiotics available to fight such bacteria — antibiotics that were not available in 1918. And yes, some bacteria have developed resistance, but not all. In plain terms, medicine has a better fighting chance.
In many cases, a course of antibiotics and acetaminophen (Tylenol) to control the fever might prove sufficient. However, there will be worse cases.
The 1918 flu also caused a cytokine storm, where the body's immune system over-reacted.
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The patient can never be at fault in my opinion. We license doctors, give insurance companies loads of decision making authority, and remove pharmacology from pharmacists.
Patients are at the mercy of doctors to make the right call and most are so over burdened that they make hasty calls.
Patients MUST take charge of their health and never rely on the system of incompetence and delays, as you so horribly found out. Find another doctor, go to an after hours clinic, be a pest and call the doctor back, do what it takes as your health is deteriorating to get more than a dismissal of what is a worsening condition.
Just as a side note: The wife and I use a concierge doctor. Cost is $2,000 a year for both of us. He is our doctor. Primary care physicians are not people’s doctors. They don’t have one. Our doctor will do house calls. He will do over the phone pharmacy orders if needed. He sees us immediately, especially for infectious disease issues. He spends time with us, hours if need be. He diagnoses, not guesses. He gets his diagnoses right (Wife and I are both medically educated and trained). He doesn’t have hundreds of patients to see every day so he only can afford 5 minutes per patient. He spends all the time we need to get things right. Having a concierge doctor is worth every penny and then some. It is medicine done right.
Using netti posts is probably a good thing to help prevent getting sick
But I can’t do it. I Have tried. I just can’t. Not even the threat of a cytokine storm has made me get through it.
So I just rinse it out myself manually
“1b) If unavailable, 15,000 IU of Vitamin D* (Note: 15,000 IU is a huge dose of Vitamin D, a fat soluble vitamin. This means excess Vitamin D is stored in the liver, rather being excreted. The half life of Vitamin D is roughly three weeks, and Vitamin D toxicity can cause serious problems)”
Not that Vitamin D toxicity can’t happen, but it’s much less likely than generally thought. I have taken 15,000 i.u. of Vitamin D3 for over 10 years and my 25-OH D levels are fine (i.e. 52 most recently).
I used to get flu shots every year after I turned 65. My husband and I stopped getting them as we don't go anywhere and we don't shake hands.
I see cases of this every year..and I think...if you only knew beforehand how fast this happens.
That is why I try to bring up my experience every once in awhile to show it is serious, it can happen fast, and there is nothing Doctor’s can do if they don’t take it seriously,,and perhaps even if they do take it seriously in the beginning.
By the time they took it seriously in my case it was way too late.
She didn’t really die of pneumonia. The sepsis is what did her in but the death certificate says pneumonia.
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One night it got so bad I was almost constantly gurgling on inhalation and exhalation and I was thinking “So this is how it ends.”
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I can picture that so well the way you described it. Makes me think of what I might feel when it seems to be my time.
Any thoughts on using a powered saline rinse to the nose? I’ve done this when I have an upper respiratory grunge to clean things out for the last several years.
In some areas where water may be impure it is good to use heated sterilized water. Here in the Northwest the water is not a problem but there can be strange materials in the water in other areas which may exacerbate the problem.
Never heard of it. Will have to look into it.
Since this incident happened I have learned to press doctors, get second opinions, research it myself, etc.
China National Railway Group said 387 railway stations nationwide are using temperature checks for passengers entering and leaving the stations as of Saturday. The railway department had cooperated with the local governments to close 72 railway stations in Hubei Province, and fever screening procedures have been put in place.
On Saturday, the first day of the Lunar New Year and the 16th day of the Spring Festival travel rush, the national railway sent 2.6 million passengers. The passenger flow saw a significant reduction by about 38.4 percent year on year.
According to the national railway department, as of 06:00 p.m. on Friday, 257 batches of infection prevention and control materials had been transported to Wuhan, with a total of 7,362 pieces and 82.2 tons, including 695,000 masks, 180,000 pairs of gloves, 23 tons of drugs and 209 medical instruments.
The railway department reminded passengers that electronic tickets or non-cash purchase tickets could be refunded online; if tickets need to be refunded at the station, passengers can choose any railway station near them before the departure date.
Besides, China will halt all outbound tourist groups from Monday, the China Tourism Association announced on Saturday. The association said domestic flight and hotel bookings through travel agencies have been put on hold since January 24, while similar services for overseas destinations will be suspended from January 27.
China Customs is also requesting all travelers who want to cross China’s border to fill out a health declaration form, because of the outbreak and spread of the coronavirus.
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China wouldn’t care if this was the mere flu.
How many people even heard of this thing a week ago?
And China has designated 20 hospitals — not in Wuhan, but Beijing! — to handle coronavirus victims.
I’ve got a powered nasal rinse thing that makes a neti pot look Stone Age. Think a water pic with a special cone shaped rubber end for sticking on a nostil.
You probably would like it even less.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B000H84D2G
Yes, I use distilled water to make up my saline solution. And see my previous for the next step up from a neti pot.
I am so sorry, RummyChick. It is so hard to lose a child. I know from personal experience. My oldest died at 21 years from sudden cardiac arrhythmia.
I worry that the overuse of antibiotics is resulting in bacteria that are resistant. This can complicate the secondary infections that might set in.
Of course they’d care. This whole cycle has got to be terribly embarrassing for China. They keep insisting they are a major nation on the world stage, fully modern and to be reckoned with. And yet time and time again these “super bugs” reap havoc in China only to fizzle out in the rest of the world. Not good for the national ego. They need to start handling these things internally, not showing themselves to be a backwater.
Oh, btw.
As of today, all interstate travel into or out of BEIJING is forbidden.
Think what that does to a command economy.
You’re welcome.
Working out at the gym, I never touch my face. At the end of a session, I head straight to the washroom, wash with soap and the lukewarm water, then only use paper towels to touch everything on the way out.
It seems that only using distilled water would be a prudent precaution.
I brought up distilled water with one doctor here in Washington state and she said that the tap water here was fine but not everywhere.
Hubby and I have a concierge doc. Costs us a pretty penny on top of our insurance but you’re right....it’s worth it. I got tired of being sick as a dog...knowing I had either bronchitis or pneumonia and when you call the doc they say....sorry, there’s just no way we can get you in today. We suggest the urgent care. On January 1 I woke up with black spots and lightning flashes in my left eye. Next morning called the doc office at 8am and she said be here by 9. While at the doc office they called around and found an eye specialist for me to see that day. I left the doctor’s office and drove straight to the eye specialist. My doc was afraid it was a detached retina and he couldn’t see in there because I have the beginning of cataracts. Turned out it was a torn vitreous gel but I knew by noon what it was, or wasn’t. Worth every penny to be treated instead of just ‘seen’.
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