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The FBI Tragedy: Elites above the Law
National Review ^ | June 11, 2019 6:30 AM | By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON

Posted on 06/11/2019 9:32:15 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

After decades in the FBI, the top brass came to believe they could flout the law and pursue their own political agendas. One of the media and beltway orthodoxies we constantly hear is that just a few bad apples under James Comey at the FBI explain why so many FBI elites have been fired, resigned, reassigned, demoted, or retired — or just left for unexplained reasons. The list is long and includes director James Comey himself, deputy director Andrew McCabe, counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok, attorney Lisa Page, chief of staff James Rybicki, general counsel James Baker, assistant director for public affairs Mike Kortan, Comey’s special assistant Josh Campbell, executive assistant director James Turgal, assistant director for office of congressional affairs Greg Bower, executive assistant director Michael Steinbach, and executive assistant director John Giacalone. In short, in about every growing scandal of the past two years — FISA, illegal leaking, spying on a presidential candidate, lying under oath, obstructing justice — someone in the FBI is involved.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: abovethelaw; andrewmccabe; christopherwray; declassification; elites; fbi; fisa; impeachment; jamescomey; lisapage; muellerbad; muellerhoax; perjury; peterstrzok; robertmueller; spygate; steeledossier; tds; vdh; victordavishanson; witchhunt
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To: qaz123
And what was the point in sending the FBI to investigate the American consulate in Benghazi after it had been looted and burned after Ambassador Stevens was killed? Did they really think they'd find anything useful, or was it just for the politics of the optics?

-PJ

101 posted on 06/11/2019 12:51:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: All

The FBI, the other Congressional institutions, most of DC has become an empire onto its own. It does not represent USA, e.g., We-The-People, it represents those who control it. I.e., enemies of USConstitution, foreign and domestic.


102 posted on 06/11/2019 12:53:42 PM PDT by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam ; USAgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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To: SENTINEL
Lon Horiuchi.

Was that sarcasm? If there were any justice, he'd be 6 feet under so I could piss on his grave.

103 posted on 06/11/2019 12:59:13 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: US Navy Vet
After decades in the FBI, the top brass came to believe they could flout the law and pursue their own political agendas.

Sorry, it's not just the FBI. It's all law enforcement agencies.

And, it's not just the top brass, it is the rank and file and their unions.

Look at what they tried to do to a sitting president, then imagine what they will to you, your family, or your fellow citizens.

104 posted on 06/11/2019 1:00:30 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

PJ...a whole bunch of us could probably go on for days about them. But, with regards to Benghazi, the State Dept has the Diplomatic Security Service. Why didn’t they do the investigation? Did the FBI show up and tell everyone in the room that, “We’re the FBI. We’re the only ones that can handle this investigation.”

Last time I checked, the military services all have investigative branches, Army CID, NCIS and OSI. They could have easily done the investigation and have all the toys and personnel to do it.

However, with all the corruption that has been uncovered, who were the folks in key, national leadership positions at the time? Did they need to make sure that things were done a certain way and knew they had loyal agents to make sure it looked good for the home team?


105 posted on 06/11/2019 1:02:04 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Political Junkie Too
Also, what about the Las Vegas shooting? What happened to the FBI there?
Were they incapable of investigating that, or were the politics of what they found too much for the powers at large to allow to get out?
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If we are dealing with rotten fish, how about Obozo himself. Not one stink’n FBI or CIA agent stepped forward to disclose the truth about the fraudster in chief. It took an honest county sheriff by the name of Joe Arpaio to undress Obozo. Even then, not a single agent has stepped forward to this day. That says all you need to know about crooked cops, D.C. and the Deep State. Is there any wonder we are outraged?
106 posted on 06/11/2019 1:12:30 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: EVO X

“The only ones that open their open their mouths are the retired agents”

That’s because the active agents prefer paying their mortgages to not paying them.

Control is very easy for “the brass” when the entire family of every agent is held hostage by their paycheck.

You are dealing with human nature...anyone with life responsibilities and a healthy paycheck that maintains those responsibilities will answer “how high” when the boss says “jump”.

Otherwise they’re going to end up living with the rats, garbage and sh*t in Los Angeles.


107 posted on 06/11/2019 1:13:13 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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To: semantic

Ive been critical of VDH in the past but I say give credit where credit is due.

You’re kind of in a trashy mood today aren’t you? It’s one thing to criticize the author but it’s another to laugh at me for praising it.

I’m pretty sure you’re a jerk.


108 posted on 06/11/2019 1:30:57 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
That’s because the active agents prefer paying their mortgages to not paying them.

Retiring at age is also an incentive to keep your mouth shut.

109 posted on 06/11/2019 1:31:53 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: TakebackGOP

That’s because the GOP is accountable too!


110 posted on 06/11/2019 1:34:25 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

That was suppose to be retire at age 50.


111 posted on 06/11/2019 1:36:27 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: qaz123

We have expanded armed SWAT units and armed personnel in non military government to the level that, combined, they outnumber the Marine Corps.


112 posted on 06/11/2019 1:44:07 PM PDT by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Albion Wilde

Or how about the high school shooter in Florida? They were tipped on that too.


113 posted on 06/11/2019 1:46:58 PM PDT by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: US Navy Vet

Very good article by VDH

But seriously, why does any of this matter in a Nation of Men?? Don’t the Public Masters hold themselves above all laws? Now if we lived in a Nation of Laws, things might be different, but that horse done left the barn a long time ago.


114 posted on 06/11/2019 2:05:38 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: be-baw; Travis McGee
Just trying to spread some hard truths here. Matt uses fiction, I attempt to use logic. Both can be effective depending on audience.

For example, what is the difference between mutiny and rebellion? Is there one, or is it merely a question of semantics? The reason I ask, is what would be the appropriate response if the military was engaged in mutiny? Would it be considered treason, insurrection, or just a disagreement that needed to be resolved via appropriate channels?

OK, back to the original question: if certain federal departments are in essence engaged in insurrection, why should the response be any different than one directed at a mutiny in the military? Final question - if the federal and/or respective state governments did no act in a forceful manner towards either, what message would be sent to the conspirators?

This why anything other than a declaration of insurrection taking place in certain departments and states just means the opposition won. Since that's the case, what's the point of some long, contemplative essay on what's been obvious to anyone with clue for awhile now?

VDH et al are just empty voices fading into the past. The future is much, much more radical.

115 posted on 06/11/2019 2:23:12 PM PDT by semantic
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To: semantic

Geez, even at is worst, reading VDH is better than reading the garbage you just posted.


116 posted on 06/11/2019 2:48:16 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: Albion Wilde

bump


117 posted on 06/11/2019 2:53:38 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: RedStateRocker
If the people who make the laws don’t have to abide by them, you’re not being governed, you’re being ruled.

You noticed? {:-)

118 posted on 06/11/2019 3:49:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: damper99
Really? I've seen no evidence that these dedicated field agents are doing anything other than following the lead of their bosses.

Don't be silly all the good ones resigned in outrage when Hillary was not indicted, just like some freepers said they would, all 0 of them.

119 posted on 06/11/2019 3:54:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: SENTINEL
God is not required to order military tribunals of coup conspirators, only a Commander in Chief.

Have you been sleeping? Everything this CIC does is immediately challenged in court and has to make its way to the Supreme Court, which takes months or years. He couldn't even keep the taxpayer from having to pay for gender transitioning surgeries in the military, with enlisted gender confused personelll wanting 9 months to a year unable to perform one's duties, and what happened?—big lawsuits! A year down the drain with Mattis secretly brown-nosing the gender confused.

We had a Deep-State-collaborating AG for the first two years. This new AG Barr has finally called out the rotten system where a judge in a Federal court in one state presumes to make an injunction on a Presidential Exec Order that applies to the entire country, not just the judge's own state. This is the tool activist leftie judges have been using to #resist. It will take awhile to get that legal standard fixed, and probably will need the SCOTUS to vote in favor.

It's time for you to realize that even the military tribunals have become corrupted. There were two threads about that here on FR in the past five or six days, where corrupt JAG or Navy officers illegally manipulated the cases of the accused.

There will be no reasonably certain outcome of what any sane person would think of as justice until the majority of the nation is ready to go back onto the Truth standard instead of the Relativity standard, the latter being what we have now. The lawlessness goes psyche-deep into people who swear oaths to uphold the Constitution and then do the exact opposite, because they just point out what the universities have been hammering for the last three generations -- "truth" is relative, not absolute! -- and no one can stop them now, the rot is so deep. It will take a long time to turn it around.

I think many of us were so thrilled with Trump's correct diagnosis of what is wrong with this nation and his promises to address those issues that we, like him, expected much faster results. Few of us, including him, were prepared for just how diabolical the opposition and #resistance would be. There have been very, very few loyal allies to this president; certainly not the Republican Party, and most certainly not any of the Democrat or Socialist or soros-groups like Antifa, BLM, and the entire U.S. mainstream media, including FoxNews, with a few individual exceptions (Hannity, Levin). It's been like a surgeon opening up a patient with cancer and finding not one lump, or two, but cancer everywhere.

Get on your knees, if you care about this country, and pray. Nothing else will help now.

120 posted on 06/11/2019 4:29:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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