Posted on 05/04/2019 4:10:32 PM PDT by rdl6989
Maximum Security, ridden by Luis Saez, finished first Saturday in the 145th Kentucky Derby at Louisville's Churchill Downs. "This was my dream. I just feel so glad," Saez told race broadcaster NBC.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
BTW, yes they were hurt by lengths.
Long Range Toddy was majorly pulled up from this and HE is the worst- placed affected horse that MS was placed behind.
Mike Watchmaker, legendary handicapper journalist.
https://www.drf.com/news/watchmaker-legitimate-foul-demanded-kentucky-derby-dq?type=
YOU are correct.
Everyone is whining just because they are upset that a good horse officially lost to a poor horse in a major race.
Look at Servis and his sheepish reaction when the reporter asked him if this had been a lousy claimer race....he knew darn well it would be pulled. He would not answer but he was shrinking back knowing the truth.
You’d think it was the end of the world with these fans. As if the good horse will never be able to prove himself. If he really is good, he will continue to win and get close. And Country House will continue to be poor. These things happen with or without fouls and DQs.
I have watched it again ... just before MS went wide, War of Will moved out and bumped four horses. Maybe, that’s why he didn’t complain ?
No doubt, MS swung wide, and affected War of Will, but... it was still in the turn. All horses were square at the top of the stretch. They ALL had reset and had a equal chance of winning. Max Security pulled away from them all.
I read what Watchmaker had to say. The thing is, this wasn’t “any race on Wednesday’”. It’s the Kentucky Freaking Derby. We’re here, with the world watching, to determine the best horse, today. That was, very clearly, Maximum Security. The foul was nowhere near severe enough to pull down a clear winner. Other fouls occurred and were not objected.
The horse most severely affected did not object.
This outcome hurt this sport. The horse in the prestigious winner circle at Churchill was BOOED!! That is not good.
Watchmaker also admitted that, this is NOT the way the Kentucky Derby has been officiated in the past. I’ve seen worse
If horses didn’t swing wide on the turn at Churchill, nobody would have EVER heard of Calvin Borel.
Watchmaker, a legendary handicapper, just wrote in that article that IT DOESNT MATTER what kind of race it is. They must play by the same rules.
Total nonsense about War of Will. It was CLEARLY MS shying. Saez stated that to the pony reporter after the finish line that his horse got scared of the crowd, WELL before the inquiry started (I was waiting for an objection to finally be raised).
It doesn’t matter that the horse was best, or that a CONSENSUS of fans thinks nothing happened (just like that “most scientists think there is global warming”). It DID happen and them’s the rules.
And what was his point? THAT IT SHOULD.
1 Peter 3:1-6 describes the kind of life God meant a woman to live, using Sarah as an example, that will make her happy and fulfilled. But as with anything really, she can only do it as unto the Lord, surrendering herself first to the Lord, because it requires sacrificing the tendencies of the flesh, not by self effort, but by grace.
A few are more naturally inclined to live this way, not many are brought up to live this way, but God’s grace is available to those who are willing to pay that “price”. And those that do are the happiest women on earth I believe.
And that is where he is WRONG!
We're talking about 145 years of historic record here. There should be consistency. It's not fair to MS to start now, enforcing a rule that has previously NOT been applied.
BTW>> British betting site, Bet365, PAID OUT on bets for Maximum Security. They said the disagreed with the steward ruling, and will pay all winning tickets with MS. They also paid off on Country House. My British customer, who attended the Derby with me, was paid TWICE on the same race. lol
The Earlier bump by War of Will is NOT nonsense, it happened... about a 16th before MS swung wide. Sad thing is, if War of Will had held his position, he could have swung inside of MS and might have won.
But.. I don't think ANY horse was going to run past Maxiumum Security yesterday... not even if they ran 5 times around the track.
“No harm no foul” is a pretty good guide. Even in law, if something is done wrongly at trial, if it is found that the wrongdoing did not affect the outcome of the case, the wrongdoing is considered of no effect and the case is closed.
Here, although MS did go into the other horse’s lane, there was essentially no effect. Both continued at their pace.
THAT should have been the major consideration, but apparently wasn’t.
I wouldn't go so far as to say the other horses "continued at their pace".... They did have to break stride, and re-adjust. But, that happens nearly continuously in a race like the Derby, with 20 horses.
All affected horses had PLENTY of time to recover, and take matters into their own hands. You're correct: "No Harm, No Foul" has been the standard in this race for a VERY LONG time.. and, it should have applied yesterday.
What bump of any significance did WW do? This is absurd.
It is NOT about whether MS was going to win anyway, it is about how he affected other horses progress, and not just the 2nd horse. Clearly that happened. And no, it doesn’t matter that WW didn’t name it. The judges should’ve inquired anyway.
BTW, there isn’t much precedent. Only a few times did it even come in question, so that doesn’t mean that there is no real precedent for DQs. 5 times of some kind of call is hardly much of a population. It is not the same as 144 where mostly nothing happened at all.
Um... yea. Until now, something like this was NOT questioned, by jockeys or stewards. It's happened, plenty... but, on this, the BIGGEST stage in the sport, people understood it didn't make a difference, and took their lumps.
This "sport" is a business. And, that business is entertainment. This action was bad for business, on SO MANY levels. If you can't see that, then... you're blind.
So blind, you can't see WW's bump as he jockeyed for position outside of MS. tragic error by that jockey.
LOLOL Man, that is proof that you have not a clue.
Judge inquiry in the Kentucky Derby. What a joke.
https://www.pastthewire.com/kentucky-derby-inquiries-foul-claims-disqualifications-and-more/
There’s been PLENTY of “rough riding”... few claims of foul have EVER been made against a winner, and NONE were previously upheld.
For we which have believed do enter into rest...although the works were finished from the foundation of the world...There remains therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest.Heb 4:3, 9-11.
The only thing God tells us to labor for is his rest. "Labor not to be rich", but "labor to enter his rest."
Living is his rest, ceasing from our own works and flowing in his works like milk and honey, is worth more than all the riches in the world.
God bless.
...and you get there by studying God’s Word regularly and often, and letting his life and peace, which never contradicts His Word, lead you. Fellowshipping with other Christians also helps especially if they are grace-based, not law-based.
Yup.. I get that joining a church is the ideal.. Haven’t found one for me.
I watch 700 club and Joyce Meyers.
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