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California GOP ponders way forward after stunning losses
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| November 16, 2018
| Michael R. Blood
Posted on 11/16/2018 5:59:12 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Pelham
A social conservative cannot win California.
Period.
This is not the 1980s and 1990s.
You have to run Cox-like candidates and they need to have a GOOD message to beat the Newsoms of the world.
CA will implode and a Republican will win again. Soon.
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posted on
11/16/2018 8:56:05 PM PST
by
GuavaCheesePuff
(I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
To: dfwgator
I say consider shutting the party down. Run everyone as Democrats. With the open primaries, which I find unconstitutional, half the state ballots don’t even have a GOP candidate anyway. Run GOP candidates as Dems and then they have a shot at coming in the top 2 for the runoffs.
To: lowbridge
The pubbies dont sell freedom. All folks have dreams and want to achieve them. Freedom is the absolute best way to do so. Should be a simple sale.
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posted on
11/16/2018 9:31:20 PM PST
by
Nuc 1.1
(Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
To: lowbridge
The California
Republican Party isnt salvageable at this time,
Fixed it.
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posted on
11/16/2018 10:00:41 PM PST
by
PGR88
To: lowbridge
The losses were bad but hardly stunning, they were expected, no one was surprised.
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posted on
11/16/2018 10:55:55 PM PST
by
Impy
(I have no virtue to signal.)
To: lowbridge
Gosh, I thought Ahnuld would "bring the businesses back" and "put Kally-forn-ya in play for the GOP". You mean RINOs don't magically bring back RAT controlled states from the brink?
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posted on
11/16/2018 11:12:14 PM PST
by
BillyBoy
(States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
To: lowbridge
California Republican Party Platform
1. Wait til the Democrats drive all earners out of the State
2. Hope anyone is left to vote us back into power
3. Learn spanish
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posted on
11/16/2018 11:21:48 PM PST
by
Yaelle
To: lowbridge
I suspect that DemocRATS used the same fraud tactics in California as they used in Florida.
Read this from Florida :
Unaltered Document:
Altered Document:
Let's read the article AGAIN:
... The altered forms surfaced in Broward, Santa Rosa, Citrus and Okaloosa counties and were reported to federal prosecutors to review for possible election fraud as Florida counties completed a required recount in three top races.
But an email obtained by the USA TODAY NETWORK - Florida shows that Florida Democrats were organizing a broader statewide effort beyond those counties to give voters the altered forms to fix improper absentee ballots AFTER the Nov. 5 deadline.
Democratic party leaders provided staffers with copies of a form, known as a "cure affidavit," that had been modified to include an inaccurate Nov. 8 deadline.
One Palm Beach Democratic activist said in an interview the idea was to have voters fix and submit as many absentee ballots as possible with the altered forms
in hopes of later including them in vote totals if a judge ruled such ballots were allowed.
...
An email that Jennifer Kim, Florida Democratic Partys central deputy field director, sent Nov. 7 to party workers instructing them how to give voters an altered form to fix signature problems with their absentee ballots after the state deadline.
Kims email shows this is a statewide effort to give voters the altered form with the wrong deadline to return it.
The altered forms have turned up in several counties and have been turned over to federal prosecutors to review for possible election fraud.
... State Democratic Party Chair Terrie Rizzo wrote on a private Facebook page that efforts to fix ballots should be focused on provisional ballots, which were handled separately with a Nov. 8 deadline for voters to fix any issues.
"Hi all. Once again, to clarify: the activity taking place today is for provisional ballots.
Not absentee ballots," Rizzo's note read.
... It is not clear how many altered forms were sent across the state, but Kim's email outlined a step-by-step process for volunteers and staffers to follow
in order to get as many voters as possible to submit the altered form three days AFTER the deadline.
The voters MUST print out the form and sign it by hand, Kim wrote in the email that attached copies of the altered forms in both English and Spanish.
The email also included a sheet with the contact information of all election supervisors in the state.
The document Kim attached to her email was an altered state form to fix an absentee ballot with signature problems.
The altered form modified the original state document by replacing the deadline identified as
"no later than 5 p.m. on the day before the election"
with a new deadline "no later than 5 p.m. Thursday Nov. 8."
Kim's email instructed staff and volunteers to use the list of voters to contact about their signature problems on the absentee ballots,
to complete the form on the phone with the voter
and to email the completed form to the voter.
The voter was instructed to print the form and to sign it.
And Kim's email instructed the party workers to tell voters to deliver the signed form to their local election office.
Kim told staffers that voters should reply back to them AFTER they delivered the forms at the party's email, vote@floridadems.org.
That email was also included in documents Florida election officials referred to federal prosecutors in connection to the altered forms received by Broward and the other three counties.
If needed (party) staff or volunteer should go pick up their affidavit and deliver it for them if they are not able to deliver by 5 p.m. Thursday. (Each office should identify a runner that can do this.), her email states.
We will also follow with a tracking system for people who we send affidavits," Kim told staffers.
Pam Keith, a Palm Beach County Democratic activist, came under fire Wednesday after Republicans circulated a screenshot of a Nov. 7 deleted tweet she sent to about 22,000 of her Twitter followers,
encouraging people to fix their absentee ballots two days after the state-mandated deadline.
Keith told the USA TODAY NETWORK - Florida that she was aware the deadline to submit "cure affidavits" had expired
but she told people there was still time to fix their absentee ballots.
She then directed voters to email Katharine Priegues, a field organizer with the Florida Democratic Party,
with the subject line "I want to help" for instructions on what to do.
"I was trying to show that if given notice, voters would try to fix their ballots," Keith said.
"I was putting the word out because I was anticipating a challenge of that deadline (in court)."
... Federal law defines election fraud to include preventing voters from participating in a federal election "through such tactics as disseminating false information"
about the race, as outlined in an Oct. 25 letter to the state department by Assistant U.S. Attorney Harry C. Wallace in Miami.
Wallace, who is handling federal election complaints in Florida, declined to comment when contacted about an investigation into the altered forms.
Making or using an altered form is a criminal offense under Florida law, wrote Bradley McVay, the state departments lawyer, when he referred the altered forms circulated in Broward and three other counties to federal prosecutors.
More fundamentally, altering a form in a manner that provides the incorrect date for a voter to cure a defect (or an incorrect method as it related to provisional ballots)
imposes a burden on the voter significant enough to frustrate the voters ability to vote.
IF we really want to combat this FRAUD,
then we must prosecute these criminals,
and PUNISH THEM with fines and jail time
to the MAXIMUM EXTENT OF THE LAW !
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posted on
11/16/2018 11:30:04 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: dfwgator
Indeed. It is Rinoism the fault. If there is no real opposition, then there is no real meat to vote for. Rinos always blame everyone except themselves
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posted on
11/17/2018 12:33:51 AM PST
by
JudgemAll
(Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
To: lowbridge
Kristen Olsen is exhibit #1 on what’s wrong with the Republicans. NeverTrumpers are in the leadership in both the state and federal level of the GOP. I believe 2020 will be another house flip, but only if the Republicans will be ProTrump.
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posted on
11/17/2018 3:33:25 AM PST
by
Deplorable American1776
(Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
To: rdcbn
“In a few years, the rest of the nation will be taken over as well and there will be no place left to run away to...”
Then explain to everyone why Republicans control 31 states while the rats control 11. The rats have lost 1,250 state legislative seats since 2010.
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posted on
11/17/2018 6:38:35 AM PST
by
sergeantdave
(Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
To: lowbridge
Perhaps they need to investigate all the cheating going on out there. Going forward is not a consideration when the other side uses voter fraud to always win.
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posted on
11/17/2018 6:40:43 AM PST
by
dforest
(Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
To: GuavaCheesePuff
“A social conservative cannot win California.
Period.
This is not the 1980s and 1990s.”
Funny, that’s the same mantra that the GOP establishment spouted when they backed Arnold Schwarzenegger instead of Tom McClintock for governor.
McClintock was a favorite of grassroots voters who recalled Gray Davis. Arnold was the choice of the ‘moderate’ hacks who controlled the party.
And before Cox, the establishment chose Obama’s Republican twin Neel Kashkari for their candidate.
Just what we need, more candidates a hair to the right of Cal Democrats. “An echo, not a choice”.
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posted on
11/17/2018 7:04:38 AM PST
by
Pelham
(Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
To: lowbridge
They need to move out of the state and let it completely disintegrate.
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posted on
11/17/2018 7:05:44 AM PST
by
dila813
(Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
To: lowbridge
They could ask for advice from Commierado GOP. /S.
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posted on
11/17/2018 7:23:47 AM PST
by
bravo whiskey
(Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
To: lowbridge
California no longer has the American culture. It’s politics are shaped by its demographics.
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posted on
11/17/2018 7:33:22 AM PST
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
To: GuavaCheesePuff
A social conservative cannot win California.Period.
Says the pro-abort, pro-homo woman from the DUmp.
Wanna talk about Commie Soy Boy Beta, Commie Gillum or Commie Abrams? All three are gun grabbing, baby killing, homo lovers. Massive democrat voter fraud in Texas, Florida and Georgia and your faves still couldn't win.
Period.
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posted on
11/17/2018 8:19:12 AM PST
by
50mm
To: lowbridge
The California GOP couldnt be more incompetently run if it was completely staffed by Democrats with the goal of making Republicans lose. I dont think they actually care that they are losing because almost every decision they make is the most stupid and loss prone they could make. The California Republican Party has done as much to kill republican success in California as all the illegals and leftist billionaires combined.
To: 50mm
A social conservative cannot win California. Period.That's been true for a long time. When Ronald Reagan was Governor of California, he was an economic conservative, but he signed the country's first no-fault divorce law and the first law legalizing abortion. He didn't become a social conservative until he ran for President.
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