Posted on 04/28/2018 5:40:38 AM PDT by Kaslin
Every time there is a mass shooting we get the same old song and dance from the gun control fanatics. Youre sorry this happened? Then you must institute gun control. Oh, you dont want to do that? Then its your fault that it happened. The NRA is bad. They kill people. We must have gun control. Innocent law-abiding Americans are responsible. Dont you feel bad for the victims? Then institute our gun control agenda that will do nothing to stop the killings. Its hamhanded, relentless propaganda peddled by smug, self-righteous anti-gun zealots.
Well, here are some things you dont typically see those anti-gun nuts mention when they demand that we disarm the whole country because some crazy murdered people.
1) Some of the worst mass murders didnt use guns: The worst mass murder on American soil was 9/11 which featured terrorists turning planes into weapons and 2,996 people. Then there was the Oklahoma City Bombing which used explosives and cost the lives of 168. One of the largest mass murders and worst at a school was the Bath School Disaster in 1927 which used dynamite/pyrotol to achieve a 44 person body count. In 1962 a man committed suicide via dynamite ON A PLANE. Forty five people died when it went down. In the 2016 Nice attack in France, 86 people were killed with a large cargo truck. In 2016 in Japan, 19 people were even killed with a knife. The idea that these sort of killings are impossible without guns just isnt true.
2) America is not the only country with this problem: Mass shootings happen all over the world and if you account for the POPULATION DIFFERENCE between the United States and smaller nations, were not even one of the countries with the worst problem,
But a study of global mass-shooting incidents from 2009 to 2015 by the Crime Prevention Research Center, headed by economist John Lott, shows the U.S. doesn't lead the world in mass shootings. In fact, it doesn't even make the top 10, when measured by death rate per million population from mass public shootings.
So who's tops? Surprisingly, Norway is, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million (high no doubt because of the rifle assault by political extremist Anders Brevik that claimed 77 lives in 2011). No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.
The idea that this only happens here just isnt true.
3) These shooters are all white guys: Theres a long running myth about mass murderers (and for that matter, serial killers) that says theyre almost all white guys. This isnt correct as even Slate magazine noted in a rare moment of honesty,
The proportion of white mass shooters drops down to 56 percent, by my count. Judging by those newer numbers, and the most current census estimate that 76.9 percent of Americans are white, the whites-are-overrepresented-among-mass-shooters meme appears even less accurate. Perpetrators that Mother Jones classifies as Asian make up 7.4 percent of the data set, versus an estimated 5.7 percent of the population, while those MoJo identifies as black represent 17.0 percent of the mass shooters in the database versus an estimated 13.3 percent of the population. According to this data set, then, Asians and black Americans are overrepresented among mass shooters by about the same proportion (a bit more than one-fourth) that whites are underrepresented.
4) Mass shootings are much more rare than gun control advocates would have you believe: If it bleeds, it leads and the bloodier the better. That means mass shootings get ENORMOUS amounts of publicity every time they happen and if you believe gun control nuts, they happen constantly. But, what are the chances you are actually going to die in a mass shooting? Well, in an anti-gun article in the Washington Post from April of this year, it was noted that 1,081 people had died in mass shootings from 1966 to the present. In other words, roughly 21 people per year died in mass shootings over the last 52 years. Just as a point of comparison, almost one American per day (335 per year) drowns in a bathtub, hot tub or spa. In 2016, according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, 656 people were beaten to death with hands, fists, feet, etc. If the mainstream media obsessively focused on stories like these, wed have people calling for bans on bathtubs and martial arts training. The death of any innocent person is a terrible thing, but the number of deaths via mass shootings doesnt justify 1/50 of the attention its given in a nation of 325 million people.
5) Banning rifles will do very little to address the problem: There is no gun control policy that our government can put in place that will stop mass killings. Let me repeat that: there is no gun control policy that our government can put in place that will stop mass killings. Still, the latest thing weve heard from people who exploit the deaths of innocent people to further their political agenda is that they dont want to ban guns; they just want to get rid of those awful assault rifles to prevent mass shootings. That doesnt make much sense if you actually look at the data on the weapons used in mass shootings.
According to the FBI, rifles of all kinds accounted for just 3 percent of firearm homicides in 2016, while handguns accounted for 65 percent. Contrary to what you may have heard, handguns are also by far the most common choice for mass shooters. A Mother Jones review of mass shootings from 1982 through 2012 found that 66 percent of the weapons were handguns, while just 14 percent would qualify as "assault weapons" under the definition used in a 2013 bill sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). More recent data show a similar pattern.
When the only idea gun control zealots are willing to entertain to stop mass killings is *** surprise *** gun control and the majority of weapons used in those killings are handguns, it doesnt take a lot of effort to see that their real agenda is to disarm America.
One of the points I make to anti NRA folks is to ask how many NRA members has performed mass shootings?
The answer is none.
Therefore, as a lobbying organization are they not allowed to represent their law abiding members in the same manner as any other organization?
Couple of months ago, I was looking at FBI data on homicides (national data). If you go to 2015, it’s only like 3-percent of all homicides that occur with rifles of any type (not just semi-automatic). That’s it. But the FBI won’t break this down any further to say x-number are which.
Then I looked at this odd number nationally. There are roughly twice as many folks killed by fists/boot stomping....as killed by rifles (all types). So the idea that if you wiped out all assault-rifles...it would bring peace to the land, is mostly a joke.
Exactly.. The danger is not the presence of a weapon.. It’s the presence of a wacked out Leftist.
Boom...well written!
They left out the "Kool-Aid" deal with Jim Jones - wasn't on US soil but killed 918...never heard anyone say we should band Kool-Aid.
I always like to point out that it would take American criminals (plus a few Adam Lanzas and Nikolas Cruzes) many hundreds of centuries to equal the number murdered by governments in just the previous one and that these governments started with legally disarmed citizens.
The NRA fights for SAFE, LEGAL use of firearms. How in blazes does that translate into advocacy of mass murder, or indifference to gun-related crime?
Exactly.
Liberals live their lives by being loud and obnoxious, looking to find anything and everything to complain about in life. They go about holding their marches, protests and rallies to destroy what they don't like.
They have to be the most miserable people on earth.
This latest school shooting aftermath will go the way of all others. democRATS will scream in anger at the NRA and demand a ban evil-looking assault weapons.
And then, as always, nothing will come of it. Congress won't pass anything. More people will buy guns and join the NRA more than ever before.
democRATS don't have a clue that their actions generate the exact opposite reaction they intend.
Look up democRATS in the dictionary and it will describe them and their political party as the party of "unintended consequences".
6) Most mass murderers are leftists or sometimes atheists. Do not fear the Republican with a gun, but run from the leftist with any weapon.
Bump for later
I'm getting too old to run. Fortunately, we still have the Second Amendment, so I have an alternative. [Or I would have an alternative if I were not such a dedicated member of the FR Boating Club.]
It seems there was an effort by members of the Florida state legislature urging Florida’s governor Scott to relieve the Broward county sheriff which went rebuffed and unreported.
If Scott had done so.The focus would have been on the so called “Promise Policies” enacted by the Marjory S Douglas school board supported by the previous Obama administration exposing the mind set of excessive permissiveness toward correction of any violation requiring disciplinary action. Which suggests what was going on there was hardly an idyllic scholastic setting let alone offer student security.
Because of this the focus was directed not at drug use and sales , broken into lockers ,cars, and stolen books ,bikes,and student vs student and nothing about student vs teacher altercations. Or perhaps the lowering of scholastic standards. But against guns and the NRA.
A better chant:
“Hey! Yo! Liberal Ho!
How many of your kids
killed today?!”
We should exterminate liberals since they’re the ones doing the killing.
Yeah, but I believe the idea is that they need to win by one type of weapon at a time. Blame and scapegoat one weapon (Semiautomatic rifles) and then go for handguns, knives, etc.
Or someone on drugs with a weapon, because it seems that many mass killers are either on or neglecting psychoactive drugs.
Or someone on drugs with a weapon, because it seems that many mass killers are either on or neglecting psychoactive drugs.
Not Kool-aid, but AFAIK, I don’t see potassium cyanide being on sale anywhere.
It seems many of them have divorced / single parents.
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