Posted on 01/12/2018 8:53:52 AM PST by Pinkbell
We have an update on the previous thread, which I'll link below. Trump denied saying "sh*thole" in the meeting, Dick Durbin came out and said Trump said it:
“In the course of his comments, [President Trump] said things which were hate-filled, vile and racist,” Sen. Dick Durbin says of “sh*thole countries” comments. “He said these hate-filled things and he said them repeatedly.” http://cbsn.ws/2mngMu4
Of course, he then dramatized it to the extreme:
"The most disheartening thing to me is, my belief that, that was the first time words that hateful have been spoken in the Oval Office of the White House," Sen. Dick Durbin says http://cbsn.ws/2mngMu4
However, he said that Lindsey Graham was in the meeting and stood up to Trump and that other Republicans told him they didn't like Trump's words:
NEW: "Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina spoke up and made a direct comment on what the president said. I was very proud of him. It took courage for what he did," Sen. Dick Durbin says, firing back at Pres. Trump's denial of "sh*thole countries" comment
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/951836710199091201
Jake Tapper went and then talked to Flake who never misses an opportunity to trash Trump but apparently who wasn't in the meeting:
Sen. @JeffFlake to me just now:
"The words used by the president -- as related to me directly following the meeting by those in attendance -- were not 'tough,' they were abhorrent and repulsive. There is no good explanation."
Flake tells me before the @washingtonpost broke the story, he was told of the comments by @SenatorDurbin and a GOP Senator who attended the Oval Office meeting . 2/
Flake said he was told what CNN reported: that the president referred to African countries as "shithole countries," and of Haitians asked “Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out” —- meaning take them out of the deal.
See this thread:
So how and why is President Trump denying the remarks that he reportedly said?
I have some clarifying reporting from a source familiar the meeting. I want to start by saying that this does not make what he said any more acceptable, but it might shed some light on it all. 1/
The president did not refer to Haiti as a “shithole” country according to the source familiar with the meeting… though he DID say it about countries in Africa...
What happened, the source says, is there was a conflation of two different remarks by the president. 2/
First, when talking about “temporary protected status” countries as part of the immigration deal it was mentioned that Salvadorans, Hondurans and Haitians have that status. 3/
“Haitians?” the president said. “Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out” —- meaning take them out of the deal. 4/
Then in a separate part of the conversation when they were referencing the diversity visa lottery, President Trump referred to people coming from Africa as coming from “shithole countries.”
Again, I’m not saying this is better. Just that this is what happened, per my source. 5/
6/ So that might explain the kinda-pushback from POTUS today. -fin-
That was Jake Tapper. The White House didn't deny the statements last night, and it doesn't help that meeting was full of some Republicans who are conservative and like Trump (Graham likes Trump despite their disagreements) and who haven't come to his defense. Now would be the time for them to come forward.
Look, I don't like the term and have said that, but if he said it, he said it. It's best just to admit to it because denying it and getting rebuffed just gives you double the problem. The best thing to do is issue a statement immediately via Twitter or the White House clarifying his comments. It's not good to give the media a full night to call you racist without rebuttal.
The key to such a meeting is to assume the Democrats/RINOs will leak the whole thing to the press. Watch everything you say and possibly have someone video the meeting or record it so there is no deniability.
Yep, if these are lands of sunshine and happiness, then why are people desperate to leave?
the repubs want to lose for the same reason i wish i had a job that payed very well with zero responsibility.
What a bunch of loafs that occupy the senate. I have no problem with the President said or didn’t say in a closed meeting. This guy Flake needs to go, as well as Turbin Durbin!
“”””Sen. @JeffFlake to me just now:
“The words used by the president — as related to me directly following the meeting by those in attendance “”””””
As related to me???? In plain English he meant to say.... I heard some gossip from some of my fellow Trump hating democrats......
So I presume Trump is telling the truth that, regrettably, he cannot take credit for the words attributed to him and that these folks are lying. Did Kelly find another WH leaker?
I wonder if Trump wants to drop the whole DACA deal entirely, and this is just a good excuse to walk away from the Senators who are running the charade on that side of Congress.
I knew that nothing good would come from that confab.
There are currently just 4 Senators marginally on the side of the citizens and the rule of law.
Cotton, Grassley, Paul and Cruz.
That’s it.
The rest are on the side of illegal aliens and their employers.
That is just laughable.
Ping.
I’m sorry, Jeffy, but hearsay is inadmissible .
I like turd world dumps myself.
It's like me telling my kid that his room looks like a pigpen. That's certainly not hateful.
Cuz’ ol’ Senator Flakey is Captain reliable lololololololol
Go Trump! Tell it like it is. Shove the PC crap up theirs!
This is nearly as good as all the money I am making in the market this month.
Winning!
What a bunch of loafs that occupy the senate. I have no problem with the President said or didn’t say in a closed meeting. This guy Flake needs to go, as well as Turbin Durbin! This is what the media reports as news now??? I guess they heard of what LBJ used to say in his meetings!
Trump just said those weren’t the words used. That can mean anything. He’s just saying they didn’t get the quote 100% correct. I personally don’t care, he happens to make a very valid point.
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