Posted on 12/11/2017 10:14:06 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
Republicans are hesitant to switch from our winner-take-all state laws allocating electors to the electoral college to using the National Popular Vote. The National Popular Vote Plan would award all of a states electors to the candidate who wins the most popular votes in all 50 states. There is a fear that such a move will benefit Democrats, since Democrats won the popular vote even though they lost the elections in 2000 and 2016. But the truth is, Republicans are likely going to lose their ability to win the necessary swing state of Florida in the future, and they can win the popular vote by campaigning differently.
The demographics of Florida are changing. More and more illegal immigrants are entering the country. Additionally, Puerto Ricans are flooding the country due to economic chaos and humanitarian crisis following Hurricane Maria at home. When they enter the U.S., because they are American citizens they can vote, and they vote overwhelmingly Democrat. Hillary Clinton had an almost three-to-one edge among Puerto Ricans in Florida last year. Both illegal immigrants and legal Puerto Ricans are counted in the census which is used for determining how many congressional seats and electoral votes Florida receives. This will soon result in an increase in Floridas electoral votes, which will lean more Democratic as increasing numbers of Puerto Ricans vote (this doesnt even take into consideration possible illegal immigrant voter fraud).
It is true that Democrats Al Gore and Hillary Clinton won the popular vote but lost the election. But those werent true popular vote elections. The Republican candidates they lost to put all their efforts into a handful of swing states, and did a better job campaigning there than the Democrats. In contrast, Clintons campaign unwisely campaigned in non-swing states such as Arizona, while ignoring the swing state of Wisconsin. If there was a true popular vote election, the Republican candidates would run a completely different type of campaign, likely focusing on mobilizing their base in rural areas and red states. Regardless, Republicans still won the popular vote in 2004.
A presidential election using the National Popular Vote is not a radical proposal. Critics contend there would need to be a constitutional convention to amend the Constitution in order to change the state-based, winner-take-all rule that most states use to send their electors to the electoral college. This isnt necessary. The electoral college can remain. All the Constitution says about electing the president is in Article II, Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . In order to change the system, individual states would merely need to revise state law to send their electors based on the National Popular Vote for the presidential candidates instead of winner-take-all. Currently, all states but two, Maine and Nebraska, have winner-take-all systems to send their electors to the electoral college.
Critics also claim that using the National Popular Vote in presidential elections would favor big cities over rural areas. This isnt correct. Only one-sixth of Americans live in the 100 biggest cities. In contrast, in the current unfair winner-take-all system, only a handful of states decide presidential elections, the swing states. The 10 most rural states arent included, nor are 12 of the 13 smallest states. The winner-take-all system does not represent the vast majority of Americans. By the time voting results come in from key swing states, many voters on the West coast dont bother voting because their votes essentially dont count. This hurts minor candidates on the ballot in those states.
Under the current system, presidents shower pork on the swing states in order to get their votes. During the 2004 election, President Bush advocated for and got a trillion dollar expansion of Medicare in order to entice votes from the large population of senior citizens in Florida. Presidents take steps to help the coal industry in order to influence Pennsylvania, and the ethanol industry to help Iowa. Battleground states are twice as likely to receive exemptions from No Child Left Behind as fly-over states and twice as likely to have natural disasters declared.
There is another criticism that a rogue state secretary of state could frustrate the National Popular Vote Compact by refusing to certify the results. This is invalid, since plenty of federal and state laws prohibit that elected official from doing so.
Voter fraud will become more difficult under a National Popular Vote, because crooked party operatives will no longer be able to focus their efforts on just a handful of states, and the windfall of electoral votes for their illicit efforts will be smaller. For the same reason, it also reduces the possibility of recounts.
What did the Founding Fathers prefer? Not winner-take-all. The Founders debated various methods of the electoral college and almost adopted the proportional system at the Constitutional Convention. They never debated a winner-take-all system. As the states began to adopt winner-take-all, in order to ensure that their favorite sons like Thomas Jefferson won, Missouri Senator Thomas Hart Benton warned in an 1824 Senate speech, The general ticket system [winner-take-all], now existing in 10 States was not [the offspring] of any disposition to give fair play to the will of the people. It was adopted by the leading men of those states, to enable them to consolidate the vote of the State.
There are a significant number of prominent conservatives who understand what is taking place demographically so they support direct presidential elections. They include former congressmen Tom Tancredo (R-CO), Bob Barr (R-GA), former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) and eight former national chairs of the conservative American Legislative Exchange Council.
So far, 11 states have passed laws implementing the National Popular Vote Compact, and it has passed in at least one chamber of 12 other state legislatures, four of which are red states. It will go into effect when enough states have passed it to total 270 electoral votes. When polled (by a left-leaning polling company), 74 percent of Americans support direct presidential elections. This breaks down to 75 percent among Republicans and 78 percent among Democrats. The left naively thinks direct presidential elections will benefit Democrats, assuming that large urban areas will decide elections. This bipartisan support means there is a good chance it will happen.
The purpose of the National Popular Vote bill is to make every voter in every state politically relevant in every presidential election. This is the only way to right size the political influence of battleground states. Clinging to the winner-take-all system is a losing strategy for Republicans. Under that system, they will likely lose Florida by 2020 or 2024 due to demographical changes. It is better to take our chances with a direct presidential election than suffer certain defeat with the unfair, outdated, flawed current system that can and should be reformed.
Excatly ! How ‘bout we let the states decide how they want to manage this Rachel
The purpose of the National Popular Vote bill is to ensure the destruction of the Republic and rule of law, with mob rule, whipped up by whatever the national media and the nanny-state push as the narrative of the day.
Yeah! Lets become a democracy!
SMH.
I have no interest in living in a country where presidents are elected only by that segment of the population that happens to live within 500 miles of Louisville, Kentucky.
Electoral copy works just fine.
America needs more state auto omy. Not less
Popular vote as legal result (never) but only after nation wide voter ID and vote fraud legislation, which will never happen. So forgetaboutit.
Just take away the Democrats right to cheat. Same day registration was Jesse Jacksons pet idea.
We don’t “fear” it. We just believe that the USA, as established in our Constitution, was a pretty damned good idea and we don’t need to go to some headcount system that lesser nations use.
The only change we need is the end of the Two-Party system, since the two parties essentially merged over the last two decades.
But the STATES in the United STATES need to still have specific powers.
The fact that every one of the eleven jurisdictions (ten states plus the District of Columbia) is a deep "blue" state in presidential elections should have been the first clue to the author of this garbage that this idea is idiotic.
The compact isn't even legally binding. In a presidential election year, any state that signs it can simply drop out of it between Election Day and the Electoral College vote through a vote of their own state legislature.
Right, because allowing the island of Manhattan to usurp the ENTIRE state of Wyoming is a good thing./sarc
The founders were brilliant men and designed a brilliant system of government.
The electoral college assures that all states get a say.
Ignoring the natural born citizen clause was disastrous for US.
It’s not fear. It’s that we have a republic, and we want to keep it.
The system is put there for a reason, and just because someone doesn’t like it doesn’t mean we should change it.... It has served its purpose for more than 200 years, and in spite of the whining by the left.... they have not presented one argument on why it should be changed an how their change would continue to ensure that the Executive is rewarded for breadth not depth.
Rachael,
You are an idiot. Why show it by writing drivel.
Burke
<>When polled (by a left-leaning polling company), 74 percent of Americans support direct presidential elections.<>
BFD. I’d bet a percentage or two wanna be a firetruck.
I thought the states were forbidden to enter such compacts.
The purpose of “National Popular Vote” is to remove the firewall of state boundaries that limit the value of ballot-box-stuffing in the big-city urban plantations.
The Electoral College is there for a reason. It STAYS!
In the last general election one state, “CALIFORNIA” would have overridden 49 other states to make Hillary Clinton the President of the United States.
Anyone not grasping the implications of that, really needs to sit down and shut their pie-hole.
None of the votes in 49 states would have mattered, just California’s would have.
Tell me that makes sense in any sane person’s mind.
They also saw the chaos and destruction of Natural Rights that pure democracy and mob rule were creating in Revolutionary France.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.