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Death of gas and diesel begins as GM announces plans for ‘all-electric future’
WaPo ^ | 0-02-2017 | Peter Holley

Posted on 10/02/2017 1:33:13 PM PDT by NRx

After nearly a century of building vehicles powered by fossil fuels, General Motors — one of the world’s largest automakers — announced Monday that the end of GM producing internal combustion engines is fast approaching.

The acceleration to an all-electric future will begin almost immediately, with GM releasing two new electric models next year and an additional 18 by 2023.

At a media event at GM’s technical campus in Warren, Mich., on Monday, Mark Reuss, the company’s chief of global product development, said the transition will take time, but the course has been set.

“General Motors believes in an all-electric future,” Reuss said. “Although that future won’t happen overnight, GM is committed to driving increased usage and acceptance of electric vehicles.”

[Tesla’s Model 3 has ‘mass appeal.’ That doesn’t mean you can afford it.]

Reuss avoided naming the year when the auto giant will cease producing gas and diesel vehicles, noting that the company is too large to make such an estimate, according to USA Today.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; automotive; electriccars; elonmusk; energy; falcon9; falconheavy; generalmotors; globalwarminghoax; gm; obamanation; spacex
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To: DoughtyOne

I’ve read that the Bolt, their all electric car, sold spprox. 4.3k units in Q1 2017. They get a big subsidy to sell them and still loose money on each unit according to a article I read a while back.

Meanwhile, the sales on their trucks and SUVs have, for the most part, increased each year. Last I knew said trucks and SUVs have the highest profit margin for GM.


201 posted on 10/03/2017 11:10:24 AM PDT by matt04
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To: puppypusher

I know someone who has a Nissian Leaf. They will run in cold weather , but with a decreased range. They will not drive it if they expect snow or extreme cold as it cuts down the rage to barely usable with the increase use of heat and additional power to get the snow.

Maybe some day batteries will be good enough to get good range AND recharge in minutes, not hours. Only then will electric vehicles be feasible, assuming the electric grid can support them.


202 posted on 10/03/2017 11:16:25 AM PDT by matt04
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To: SaveFerris

“:^)


203 posted on 10/03/2017 11:35:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: matt04

Evidently they think they can force people into electric cars.

GM, meet the NFL.


204 posted on 10/03/2017 11:36:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: NRx

I’ll consider an electric vehicle when the range increases to a reasonable amount. I could not currently drive from our home in Johns Creek, GA to visit our son in Asheville, NC on a single charge. And to pay the price for this “beautiful green BS” is insane.


205 posted on 10/03/2017 12:03:38 PM PDT by rhubarbk ("Liberals are the stool in the community pool" . . . Hat Tip to rockinqsranch)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, I seem to recall another product that was forced on the public too soon and crashed and burned - the compact disc player.

If they want to make their own funeral, Toyota and Honda will continue to gobble up market share.


206 posted on 10/03/2017 12:13:13 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: grania
Plus gas is dirt cheap again, especially on an inflation scale. It's a no brainer to keep consuming gasoline for a consumer.
207 posted on 10/03/2017 12:14:10 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: wbill
That is my main argument too. Funny no one, no one ever addresses this obvious point. Would energy production have to double, triple? I have no idea and no one has answers. The largest electricity producer is natural gas. LOL. So we burn more of one fossil fuel to save on another. Or do some really believe renew-ables will replace natural gas? Please tell me no one really believes that?

Looking the other day at the octane of gas at the station, and the higher the octane, the lower amount of ethanol is in it. Has to tell you something about the quality of ethanol.

208 posted on 10/03/2017 12:17:59 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

Electric Cars Are a Hit With Chinese Consumers:

http://www.wsj.com/video/electric-cars-are-a-hit-with-chinese-consumers/D17A73C1-4458-41FA-99E4-D6ADB839B32C.html


209 posted on 10/03/2017 12:23:30 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Sam Gamgee

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/10/business/china-electric-cars.html


210 posted on 10/03/2017 12:25:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Haiku Guy
And outside of the US, electrical production is largely a state monopoly. So you go from a private decentralized complex system you have now for gasoline to a centralized, one producer that controls the input to your vehicle.

For example in British Columbia, BC Hydro is a Crown Corporation, that sets rates arbitrarily, and mostly generates that power from hydro damns. In Ontario it is a mix of nuclear, coal, and renewables, also state run.

211 posted on 10/03/2017 1:34:46 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Texas Fossil
No, I have seen Grand Coulee damn for instance. All the upstream damns in British Columbia have reduced that damn to a trickle. So yes, hyrdro has limits.
212 posted on 10/03/2017 1:39:54 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: sagar

Sigh, man after my own heart.


213 posted on 10/03/2017 1:41:50 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

It is geographic gift. But yes, it is limited.


214 posted on 10/03/2017 1:55:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: NRx
Waiting to see Chevy in NASCAR with electric against Toyotas and Ford...Jimmy Johnson racing in an electric vehicle? He'll retire...

Kyle Larson and Chase Elliott driving EVs? I doubt it!!

215 posted on 10/03/2017 6:50:51 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: vette6387

I haul lumber, roofing materials, dirt, bricks, bicycles in my truck.


216 posted on 10/03/2017 6:58:52 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: Caipirabob

I want to create the new Stanley Steamer auto...it is supposed to be the best car in its day..


217 posted on 10/03/2017 7:11:03 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: vette6387

Haha - that and turning Explorers into “mall finders”.

We actually have an older Explorer — got a great deal on one considering it’s mileage and condition. It’s “adequate” for going camping, or “exploring” a somewhat dicey Forest Service road (not the REALLY bad ones) and actually not bad out on the Interstate - we sometimes get around 25 mpg. Reliability has been “ok”. In many other ways, though, it’s not a well executed vehicle, and it makes you wonder where all the years of experience go.


218 posted on 10/03/2017 7:46:32 PM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Red Badger

Death of GM announced as GM goes Electric.


219 posted on 10/03/2017 8:43:52 PM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: Paul R.

“We actually have an older Explorer”

We bought a 1992 “Exploder” brand new. It had a couple of obvious weak points, but we managed to get more than 150,000 miles out of it. Then we sold it to two Mexicans who didn’t speak English. My bet is that it had it’s last “trip as a drug mule. My biggest complaints, it went through transmissions and brakes. Ours was a V6 and the transmission shop told us, as he laughed a little bit, that Ford was going to use the same transmission int he V8 engine-equiped models.


220 posted on 10/03/2017 8:54:40 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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