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Why did the left turn on antifa? (vanity, discussion question)

Posted on 09/03/2017 12:31:20 PM PDT by Cubs Fan

I have to say I was really shocked to see a lot of leftists come out against antifa (though of course not all-- Elizabeth Edwards). I'm shocked because the left always embraces and protects its extremists, no matter what they do (for example black lives matter thugs). This is the only time I have seen them do this, so what's the deal?


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KEYWORDS: antifa; antifaviolence; colleges; democrats; left; publicschools; teachers; universities
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To: SamAdams76

Nazi Party = National Socialist Party


61 posted on 09/03/2017 1:28:31 PM PDT by ETL (See my FR Home page for a closer look at today's Communist/Anarchist protest groups)
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To: Billthedrill
"Antifa is the logical consequence of having nothing more in your pocket than opposition to Trump, and the Dems have been leaning on this since last November, and it just isn't gaining the traction they need."

Yeah... this.

But if they'd had any sense, they could have looked past the ends of their noses to the ELECTION RESULTS and seen that the bulk of the country wasn't backing their agenda. What did they think was going to happen when they doubled-down on hating Trump?

Essentially, they stepped up to take more of the same loss they took at the polls.

62 posted on 09/03/2017 1:29:12 PM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Cubs Fan

It is the most disappointing thing I have seen in a long time. I wanted them to double- and triple-down on AntiFA, BLM, impeaching Trump....But they wised up.


63 posted on 09/03/2017 1:31:05 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Cubs Fan

I suspect George Soros has perceived that publicly supporting AuntieFaye is stirring up the Reaction and is counterproductive to his goals. That doesn’t mean he will stop funding them. AF is established now and does not have to have public support of the libs to continue to tear down the nation. They can “distance” themselves from it now. It will do fine on its own.


64 posted on 09/03/2017 1:43:05 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Cubs Fan

Hedging their bets so that when it all goes down they have deniability.


65 posted on 09/03/2017 1:47:18 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: Cubs Fan
1. There is apparently some very hard data from the FBI Homeland Security and some State AG's about the severe criminal backgrounds of these Antifa thugs. Even the liberals don't want to be accused of abetting known criminals with the internet. Their MMS allies can't save them if they get in bed with known/identified criminals and Antifa thugs. 2. Any well run focus group will show any one/party backing Antifa thugs will pay politically and financially and in particular with independent voters. 3. There are probably a lot of videos of the Antifa Thugs bragging about acts of sedition to remove our president and any official they don't care for. 4. Their Russia/Russia bs and other screaming hate talk against President Trump is not working, and even their biased polls are showing that result as well as focus groups.
66 posted on 09/03/2017 1:54:06 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thus the masks


67 posted on 09/03/2017 1:54:57 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: Cubs Fan

My answer: The Left has BETTER POLLSTERS than the Republicans...and the reason for that is because Republican pollsters are told what the results of their polling will be (by the GOPe), BEFORE they even do the polling.

For the 2016 campaign cycle, the GOPe had their pollsters convince EVERY REPUBLICAN running for President that being for strong border security and against illegal immigration was lethal, and would doom them with the hugely growing Hispanic population (hugely growing, of course, due to lax border security and uncontrolled illegal immigration).

Well, they did convince everyone at the time (early 2015)...but a bit later, one final Republican joined the race, and he certainly wasn’t in any mood to be ‘convinced’ of anything by such a pathetic bunch.

I suspect the Democrats, instead, simply use their pollsters to find out what their voters want.


68 posted on 09/03/2017 1:57:50 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: nickcarraway; Cubs Fan
Isn’t Elizabeth Edwards dead?

She has been very quiet since Dec. 2010.

69 posted on 09/03/2017 2:05:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: Cubs Fan

The democraps knew that their support for Auntie Fa was going to bite them in the a$$ big time in the near future, so they are cutting their losses now.


70 posted on 09/03/2017 2:16:06 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: morphing libertarian

“Thus the masks!”

Thanks! Excellent point, “The Masks”!

Since it is a criminal offense to wear a mask to events like the ones where they have taken over with their violence in many states.

In spite of the legal reality not to wear masks to these events, as known criminals, they opt to wear their masks to mask/hide exposing the police files on them.

Or they are liberal professors at a local liberal university, and they don’t want to lose that gig/pay check.


71 posted on 09/03/2017 2:17:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I didn’t know it was a criminal offense. so the cops should book them as they show up and that’s a done deal. My bank prohibits hats and sunglasses and masks. union bank soCal


72 posted on 09/03/2017 2:19:59 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: Rurudyne

What’s left of Hillary’s political career is just a stinking, rotting carcass for the buzzards to pick clean.

She’s dead Jim.


73 posted on 09/03/2017 2:27:37 PM PDT by Bullish (Whatever it takes to MAGA)
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To: Cubs Fan
I hope they keep it up


74 posted on 09/03/2017 2:37:42 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

75 posted on 09/03/2017 2:40:29 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Cubs Fan

because this is supposed to be the kinder gentler left, now?

or just more false flags and lies to sow more confusion... a number of pox on a number of hice...


76 posted on 09/03/2017 2:42:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Cubs Fan

They haven’t.


77 posted on 09/03/2017 2:46:56 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Psalm 144

Ditto.

What little we’ve heard so far could hardly be called repudiation of Antifa.

I don’t think the left has turned on them.


78 posted on 09/03/2017 2:58:13 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: cabojoe

Yes. It used to be called “occupy “. Seemed a lot more popular then. Not sure why.


79 posted on 09/03/2017 3:00:27 PM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I was also under the impression that it was against the law to deliberately hide your identity in such a manner. If that is indeed the case it says a lot about law enforcement doesn’t it? These people show up illegally wearing masks and carrying baseball bats, which is also against the law in some of these liberal cities. And yet the cops stand there and watch them.

The police should be held accountable for their BS excuse of just following orders.


80 posted on 09/03/2017 3:02:00 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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