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Northwest FIRES. 100s of thousands of acres on fire
Wild Fire Today and Others ^ | 9/3/17 | various

Posted on 09/03/2017 12:15:36 PM PDT by goodnesswins

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2017/08/more_than_320000_acres_burning.html

http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2017/Wildfires-are-threatening-thousands-of-homes-and-hindering-travel-in-the-Pacific-Northwest/id-0325ce4125ed474c82cd12e045308e20

http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=ed0a7dad32fe4848b20c6f91c74c79ea#!

http://wildfiretoday.com/2017/08/28/wildfire-smoke-map-august-28-2017/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/02/irritating-smoke-from-wildfires-choking-us-west-turning-lives-upside-down.html

http://wildfiretoday.com/2017/09/01/satellite-photo-wildfires-in-the-northwest/

MONTANA http://www.kare11.com/news/lightning-sparks-40-more-montana-wildfires/470081743


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: extreme; fires; northwestfires; smoke
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The Northwest is experiencing an Extreme fire season. Lightning strikes are continuing to light up Montana, too. See the links.

100s of Thousands of acres are or have burned. Thanks to idiot environmentalists policies, mostly.

1 posted on 09/03/2017 12:15:36 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins

Is this really any more than normal? Seems like less this year.


2 posted on 09/03/2017 12:18:06 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: goodnesswins

Why don’t those idiot “environmentalists” stop the lightning? Do they hate the forests? Are they forest-phobic. Such haters!


3 posted on 09/03/2017 12:19:39 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: goodnesswins

The smoke here in Albany, Oregon comes from all directions and has the entire population hacking and coughing. It’s worse than most years with several big fires. One near Sisters seems worse than the others near here. We drove to Roseburg and a fire east of Sutherlin covered I-5 with thick smoke. Terrible and bad for kids and old folks particularly.


4 posted on 09/03/2017 12:22:51 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: goodnesswins
There is nothing more monotonous or less biologically diverse than an overgrown pine forest. The needles kill all the grass and shrubs and there are very few animals that can live off just pine trees. All you get is pine cone seed eaters like chipmunks, birds, and porcupines which eat the new pine bark high up in the trees.

A forest that experiences frequent small fires has a lot more grass and forbs for deer, elk, bear, moose, etc. There are more herbivores and predators, biodiversity is high, and they are much more beautiful to walk through.

5 posted on 09/03/2017 12:30:11 PM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: Reno89519

Yes, it is more than normal.

http://wildfireoregondeptofforestry.blogspot.com/

10 year average is about 33,450 acres burned....we are way above that. Smoke is a big problem also.


6 posted on 09/03/2017 12:30:32 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: WMarshal

Yes, what you said....our problem is the fires get so big because they don’t do small burns...I THINK.


7 posted on 09/03/2017 12:31:16 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: goodnesswins

Cascade Locks (in Columbia Gorge) now has a Level 3 evacuation order....which means...you must leave.


8 posted on 09/03/2017 12:32:06 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: Salvation

Oregon ping


9 posted on 09/03/2017 12:33:48 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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Yep, getting a little smoky up here although it isn't as bad as a couple years ago. Wet spring followed by a dry summer and all that stuff that grew so lush is now tinder.

No fireworks or campfires for the Labor Day crowd hereabouts. Restrictions on off-road activities. And it looks like a week to go before the rain begins. Could get interesting.

10 posted on 09/03/2017 12:34:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Grants Pass is surrounded by fires, so no relief with wind. No traffic on the streets, everyone staying indoors.


11 posted on 09/03/2017 12:47:46 PM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: goodnesswins

S/B...NEAR Cascade Locks is under Level 3 Evac order...


12 posted on 09/03/2017 12:52:11 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: goodnesswins
You are right in your thinking. A forest that has not had smaller understory burns gets overgrown. They have massive amounts of pine needles on the ground, branches on the lower trunks accumulate, smaller trees abound so that when a fires does start it doesn't stay in the understory but climbs up to burn everything. The fires get so hot that the sap in the big trees literally flash boil and blows the trees up in huge balls of flame.

Trust me, if you ever want to start a fire fast and easy with just one match, just gather up dry pine needles from the forest floor into a conical pile about a foot high, then 6 to seven pine cones, a layer of small sticks, then 3 to four pieces of wood and you are good to go. Pine needles and cones burn easy, fast and hot.

In the morning if your fire is just down to just a few coals, throw on a couple handfuls of pine needles and 4 to 5 pine cones, and then whatever amount of wood you need/want. Wait until the needles start to smoke then blow hard on them and they will burst into flame just like that.

If it is raining or the forest is really wet then at night you can rake some coals into a small pile surrounded by rocks and then cover it with a good layer of white ash. Then put the rest of the fire out. If the forest is somewhat dry or worse, put the whole fire out.

If your campsite is on pine duff (a thick mat of pine needles) make absolutely certain you scrape away all the needles anywhere near the fire, maybe out to 8 or 9 feet away.

13 posted on 09/03/2017 12:59:07 PM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: hal ogen

?????????? Environmentalists are the reason there’s no thinning of the forests, thus the excessive fuel for the fires. The Environmentalists have successfully fought to disallow roads to be built, thus hindering firefighting capabilities. The list of stupid Environmentalist actions that cause us all grief at these times goes on, and on.


14 posted on 09/03/2017 1:00:34 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: goodnesswins

I’ve lived in Oregon nearly 30 years. I’ve never seen it this bad for so long. The smoke is so thick I can barely see my neighbor’s house.
Our forests have been mismanaged due to environment whackos like our Governor. Companies used to be allowed to go in and take fallen trees, clean up debris and make forest roads. But in the last 15 years they’ve been forbidden. Also just talked yesterday to a newly retired forestland firefighter. He said our Governor has taken away money for firefighters, new equipment etc. Seems they think it’s much more important to pay for all abortions on demand.
If they don’t get the fires under control soon there will be many health problems. No rain in sight.


15 posted on 09/03/2017 1:00:37 PM PDT by weston (SO HERE'S THE STORY: As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2017/08/more_than_320000_acres_burning.html

Oregon Ping!


16 posted on 09/03/2017 1:03:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goodnesswins

On the coast, the sun was an orange or red orb all day, the moon orange all night.


17 posted on 09/03/2017 1:08:53 PM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: goodnesswins
SOOOOO glad we moved to beautiful pristine northern Michigan a few years ago.

Irony of the century that their rewilding causes so much air pollution. But hey, natural or bust, right?

It's a gorgeous weekend here with perfect weather, clear gorgeous blue skies and sun, wonderful people. Why anyone stays in the PNW is beyond me.

18 posted on 09/03/2017 1:09:18 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: goodnesswins

We’re choking on smoke here in Yakima.


19 posted on 09/03/2017 1:09:55 PM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA!)
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To: goodnesswins

About 780 square miles of Oregon are on fire now, (was around 500+ last week). Oregon is 98300+ square miles...so it seems small, but it’s concentrated mostly in a smaller area.


20 posted on 09/03/2017 1:14:57 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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