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I met Don Jr and Jared at Trump Tower and we DID give them dirt on Dems, says Soviet spook
Daily Mail ^ | July 14, 2017 | Nikki Schwab and Alana Goodman

Posted on 07/14/2017 6:53:17 PM PDT by Pinkbell

Donald Trump Jr faced damaging new claims on Friday that he lied about his meeting with a Russian lawyer, as an ex-Soviet intelligence officer revealed he was there too and claimed a trove of claims about Democrats and 'bad money' was handed over.

Russian-American lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin - who U.S. intelligence think may still be a spy - told the Associated Press that he was part of the Trump Tower meeting with Don Jr.

Don Jr brought Jared Kushner, his brother-in-law who is now one of President Donald Trump's , and Paul Manafort, then the campaign chairman.   But on Friday Akhmetshin and other sources revealed stunning new details about the meeting which put Don Jr on the ropes.

Akmetshin's disclosure of being there blew apart Don Jr's claim on Tuesday to have told 'everything' there was to say about the meeting - because the president's son had only admitted to the presence of Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.

Then Akhmetshin, a former Soviet military intelligence officer, piled on the pressure with a bombshell claim that Veselnitskaya had brought a plastic folder full of printed documents which contained claims of the Democratic National Committee receiving dirty Russian money.

That directly contradicted Don Jr's account that no information had been received from the visiting Russians. Don Jr was uncharacteristically silent on twitter as disclosure followed disclosure.

In contrast his brother-in-law Jared Kushner was grinning and relaxed as he and his wife Ivanka mingled with media moguls at Sun Valley in Idaho. 

Democrats are beginning to seize on the claims with Bernie Sanders telling an Associated Press reporter: 'These are very, very, very serious allegations.'

He added that there should not be a rush to judgment. The most damage of the day was done to Don Jr's credibility. 

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: fakefreepers; fakenews; lair; libel; lies; russia; russialawyer; trump; trumpjrrussia; trumprussia
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To: unread
"founding princables."

Err... That should be "principles"...

121 posted on 07/15/2017 4:54:23 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Pinkbell

The Russians are not working for the Republican Party against the Democratic Party nor for the Democrats against the GOP, they are working against both the Republicans and the Democrats.


122 posted on 07/15/2017 5:04:13 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

If I could post the looter guy in the room now that would be funny


123 posted on 07/15/2017 5:09:47 AM PDT by italianquaker
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To: Pinkbell

Which theory is harder to believe?
That Trump, who had never run for office before and who was panned as a clown by the Democrats and the media right up until Election Night last November, orchestrated a grand coup d’état with the assistance of the Russians to “hack” an American election, and that it was so well hidden that the Don Junior meeting is the only real evidence unearthed so far of the whole thing…
…Or that the Obama administration and the Democratic Party used their immense power to attempt to ensnare the Trumps in a damaging narrative that would either discredit him and the Republican Party as traitors in the event of a Clinton victory or cripple his administration in “scandal” should he pull an upset?
Who had the means, motive, and experience to pull off the deeds in question? Who had the power to let Veselnitskaya into the country, and what purpose would be served for such permission?
We don’t know the half of this story. But frankly, this business with The Russians is all of a sudden a lot more interesting than it’s been the whole time the media has been flogging it.


124 posted on 07/15/2017 5:16:16 AM PDT by weezel
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To: Wiser now

If in fact, there were files on the DNC receiving dirty Russian money, why weren’t they turned over to the authorities?

I’m going to put a bunch of paper into a zip lock bag, contact the FBI and say I have “documents” related to Russia. Hilarity will ensue, not.


125 posted on 07/15/2017 5:17:21 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Pinkbell

Because Trump Jr was smart enough to see that there was nothing really there. The Obama-Clintonista plants - the Russian double agent and the Russian lawyer - came with a folder of claims, but no facts, no real dirt. They were trying to trade a folder of empty claims the same way they traded the “Trump dossier” to the DNC and McCain. Trump Jr didn’t take the bait, because that’s all it was - a baited hook.


126 posted on 07/15/2017 5:52:59 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Hostage

Viscount Rothermere - Wikipedia

The Daily Mail was founded by Viscount_Rothermere, a title created for press lord Harold Harmsworth. Harmsworth was pro-Hitler and following the outbreak of WWII he moved to Bermuda to foil his potential arrest.

The present Viscount Rothermere, publisher of the Daily Mail, is one of the UK’s richest individuals. He seems to be both apolitical and amoral, leaving the operation of the Daily Mail to underlings.


127 posted on 07/15/2017 5:54:18 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Pinkbell

We are not supposed to believe a Russian when he “vehemently denies” something, but we are supposed to believe this guy?


128 posted on 07/15/2017 6:13:10 AM PDT by trublu
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To: Pinkbell

Am I missing something? OK- international businessmen meet with people from all countries. Hell, Nixon talked to the Chinese and Obama defended and buddied terrorists. Now is this about WHO Trump talked to or WHAT they told him? Its the INFO that matters. Was it TRUE? I don’t care if we get info from aliens via SETI, was it TRUE?? And if it was/is then what politician doesn’t want the dirt on competitors? Is not personal, damning info from private lives used all the time? Now we care HOW we get it more than we care WHAT we get? Makes no sense to me. We’re focusing on the messengers instead of the info-don’t like the messenger/means of transmission then we discard the data? If every thing we know about Hillary/Clintons is true-and it came from the Russians via Trump Jr- I say THANK YOU!! The American public deserves to know everything.Not that the Deplorables needed any secret info to hate Hillary. She provided enough public dirt to ensure that.


129 posted on 07/15/2017 6:15:00 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: kaehurowing
"Is everybody missing the fact that there is evidence the DNC was getting illegal donations?"

Amazing how that gets overlooked, ain't it?...

130 posted on 07/15/2017 6:32:20 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Pinkbell; TigersEye; hoosiermama

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if this was the so-called dirt. It could have been handed to an aide, for all we know. Btw, I believe this has been posted on FR in the past.

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/page/3/

Take special note of the timeline.


131 posted on 07/15/2017 7:03:10 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: arrogantsob

So you are a Arrogant as$hole and and a Idiot too....Thanks for confirming that.


132 posted on 07/15/2017 7:17:03 AM PDT by davidb56
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To: Pinkbell

How much did the RATs pay this spook to say that he delivered dirt on them? Money talks.


133 posted on 07/15/2017 7:23:08 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“The spider in the corner....Manafort.”

No, I think the spider in the corner is President Trump.

It’s obvious he wants to get all these crooked Democrats but he doesn’t want to use the Justice Department to do it, because it would be viewed by the public as a partisan abuse of his executive authority. Remember the outrage following the debate when he said “because she’d be in jail”? Remember Krauthammer calling that “beyond the pale”?

So instead, he has to use the MSM and RussiaGate investigations and redirect them toward the Democrats. This is why he keeps stirring the pot and getting his son to stir the pot. Trump wants to keep this Russian thing alive because he knows it can only hurt the real culprits, the Democrats.

The MSM is submoronic - they hate Trump and have lost track of their own lies, which they have come to believe. They don’t realize the DNC has been pulling their strings and telling them what to report. They actually think Trump is guilty of colluding with the Russians. Trump knows he’s not, and the Democrats, who made the whole thing up, knows he’s not.

Meanwhile, the Democrats are assuming they have the entire MSM under their hypnosis and can continue to pound Trump into submission, but this is changing, and only Trump knows it. The MSM is oblivious, and the Dems are overconfident.

Every time the Russian thing gets recycled, more info points to the real culprits; the Democrats.

If I’m right about all this, the Democrats will suddenly start saying they think it’s time to stop talking about Russia, treason, collusion, etc. - time to move on. This will signal that they finally see Trump is out maneuvering them again - give it another month.

Anyway, that’s my prediction, FWIW.


134 posted on 07/15/2017 8:09:48 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: Conservative Gato

There seems to be a handful on here caught up in on this drama crap too. Just read the entire thread , and some are like drama queens caught up in a high school dating drama.

This is all crap, there is nothing, but a narrative to deflect attention away from the Clinton, obama, Jarret, Rice crimes. Now sadly some drama queens are spreading this crap on here.


135 posted on 07/15/2017 8:12:20 AM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: Pinkbell

The real bombshell is the DNC getting illegal donations.

If true, that’s damaging and I would have used if it could be verified.

The fake news media as usual, misses the forest for the trees.

Latest disclosure doesn’t damage Don Jr. but it doesn’t reflect well on the Democratic Party.

Like I always like to say, be careful what you wish for; it might not be what you want.


136 posted on 07/15/2017 8:34:21 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: God luvs America
or maybe the Russian is outright lying

Bingo

137 posted on 07/15/2017 1:06:29 PM PDT by cpdiii ( Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. CONSTITUTUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: davidb56

Your inane remark demonstrates that you know NOTHING about how a SUCCESSFUL prosecution is obtained. Or that months of evidence gathering is required. Courts won’t accept rumors or suppositions they demand facts.


138 posted on 07/15/2017 10:14:40 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: enumerated

It is not the Democrats leading the media but the other way around and it is leading it straight to hell.

Is there anyone who cares what Prissy Krauthammer thinks about anything? It is as enlightening as listening to Juan Williams.

You are correct that Trump is outwitting the democrat/media
and he has been since he announced his candidacy. “Hey CNN another package from ACME come and get it.”


139 posted on 07/15/2017 10:22:10 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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