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Is Paul Ryan deliberately sabotaging the Trump presidency?

It appears his Ryancare bill was meant to fail.

1 posted on 03/24/2017 8:36:42 AM PDT by detective
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Is Paul Ryan deliberately sabotaging the Trump presidency?

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2 posted on 03/24/2017 8:37:21 AM PDT by detective
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Polls: Hillary more popular than Trump.


3 posted on 03/24/2017 8:38:07 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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The NYTimes has a story on this today—it was Ryan, Pence and Priebus who convinced him to go with this bill as his first legislation. None of those guys have his (or IMO the country’s) best interests at heart.

The only hope is that Trump learns the right lessons from this—and then acts on them.

(That he’s continuing to bash the freedom caucus in his tweets this AM is not a good sign, however...)


4 posted on 03/24/2017 8:38:45 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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This is completely stupid but it reveals media influence as reflected in the spin of polling questioning and the resulting numbers.

97% of people do not have the slightest idea what is in Ryancare, plus it is not settled, so how can they like it or not like it?

It’s just all BS, all the time.


5 posted on 03/24/2017 8:39:27 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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Let this RyanCare fail, and let Obamacare explode, then have President Trump come in with his bill for the American People!!!


6 posted on 03/24/2017 8:40:08 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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Just tell me straight up. Is Congress exempt from the provisions contained in this bill? If so, I’m against it. If not, I’m for it. Maybe.


7 posted on 03/24/2017 8:41:02 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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This is the real reason why the GOP is having such a hard time passing the bill. My own GOP rep. has had a running poll on his website over the last week or so, and it’s running about 70% against the Ryan bill.


8 posted on 03/24/2017 8:41:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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It’s really hard to take these clowns seriously any more. However, truth be told, I stopped taking them seriously back when the R’s controlled the congress and the executive branch and removed all doubt that they were merely a part of the #uniparty.

My solution to all this was to get some acreage in a county where I don’t need building permits and can pretty much live without any government intervention. I even cancelled health care insurance. It’s been a very nice time. In many very positive ways, it’s like living in the 1950’s, but with all the modern conveniences.


9 posted on 03/24/2017 8:41:15 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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Not on FR. seems like the majority here want it passed believing Ryan will take care of problems down the road..

Laughable.

They MAY take care of the Vet issue that happened this week..but will they still give it to illegals.


10 posted on 03/24/2017 8:41:38 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Ryan wanted to hang this turkey around Trump’s neck to make him a one term President.


11 posted on 03/24/2017 8:41:46 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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All Paul Ryan's fault !

By evening, Trump sent his top lieutenants to a dramatic meeting on Capitol Hill on Thursday night with an ultimatum: he was done talking. According to Representative Chris Collins of New York, a top Trump ally, White House budget director Mick Mulvaney told House Republicans that Trump wanted a vote.”The president has said he wants a vote tomorrow, up or down,” Collins said.
Trump demands support in do-or-die Friday vote on healthcare plan (POLITICS | Fri Mar 24, 2017 |)

13 posted on 03/24/2017 8:43:28 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Don't call it Trumpcare until he does!)
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We need to repeal, and replace with the Market. Trump should say Government is getting out of Health Insurance, and let people decide.


16 posted on 03/24/2017 8:43:54 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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If first you don’t succeed, try, try again.


17 posted on 03/24/2017 8:44:33 AM PDT by Crucial
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Ryan must be removed as Speaker. He is a worthless piece of dung.


18 posted on 03/24/2017 8:45:47 AM PDT by Logical me
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20 posted on 03/24/2017 8:47:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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Chris Stirewalt, Fox News Politics Editor, just referenced this approval poll and told a sad Staurt Varney that Republicans need to let this bill die.

“It’s a dog. Let TrumpCare die”, is what he said...and, that only 17% of Americans approve this plan....even the ones who wrote it don’t like it.

And, that “it is being carried out with the grim enthusiasm of the fuel dirge.”

😳

21 posted on 03/24/2017 8:49:01 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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Then why is Trump so hardlined behind it if it sucks so badly?


22 posted on 03/24/2017 8:49:23 AM PDT by joesbucks
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Multiple polls show that the GOP’s Ryancare healthcare plan is even more unpopular than the perpetually unpopular Obamacare plan or the Democrats’ 1993 “Hillarycare” plan, says FiveThirtyEight.com, which analyses polls, surveys, and data.

This statement makes no sense to me. Is it Fake News?

Obamacare has a proven record of higher and higher costs, higher deductibles, with more than 20 million with no coverage. There are fewer doctors, fewer options, and fewer people who can afford the procedures they need. We were lied to about being able to keep our doctors. We were lied to about being able to keep our plans. Now they are all gone!

We have few if any details on how the new health care plan will really work, other than unsubstantiated claims that it is bad!

25 posted on 03/24/2017 8:53:46 AM PDT by olezip
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Republicans have an astonishing capability to stick their heads up their cans: they have run on repeal ... not rePEEL ... moreover by trying to do repeel in the same legislation as repeal they are dooming the effort on top of that.

They need a clean repeal bill, citing the lies used to get ACA done the way it was, first with no effort to repeel as part of it. This should happen on schedule even if no subsequent repeel happens.

Republican voters would love to someday get something other than Democrat-Lites who do the same things that Democrats do ... but only with minor differences!


26 posted on 03/24/2017 8:59:53 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Well, Ryan didn’t make Trump come out singing its praises. Trump and Pence have done that on their own!


27 posted on 03/24/2017 9:01:11 AM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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