Posted on 03/14/2017 8:39:46 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
Every time I see an interview discussing 2016 surveillance of the Trump Campaign and candidate Donald Trump I keep going back to that November 17th, 2016, Trump Tower visit by NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.
No-one in the Obama chain-of-command knew Director Rogers was going to meet with President-Elect Trump; Rogers did it entirely on his own impetus, and James Clapper was furious in the aftermath.
Additionally, Admiral Mike Rogers is still running the NSA. President Trump has made no effort to replace him.
“Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command. He didn’t use the NSA. He didn’t use the CIA. He didn’t use the FBI, and he didn’t use Department of Justice. He used GCHQ. What the heck is GCHQ? That’s the initials for the British spying agency. They have 24/7 access to the NSA database. So by simply having two people go to them saying, ‘President Obama needs transcripts of conversations involving candidate Trump, conversations involving president-elect Trump,’ he’s able to get it, and there’s no American fingerprints on this.”
~ Judge Andrew Napolitano
If what Napolitano’s sources are saying is true, then it’s even more confirmation of our hunch in an earlier timeline. NSA Director Mike Rogers didn’t want to participate in, or give aid in relationship to, the surveillance scheme. Consequently, the Obama White House worked around Rogers with another source, British Government Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ), for the same information.
In 2013 Edward Snowden released information the UK GCHQ was being party funded by the U.S. NSA to the tune of over £100 million:
[…] The funding underlines the closeness of the relationship between GCHQ and its US equivalent, the National Security Agency. But it will raise fears about the hold Washington has over the UK’s biggest and most important intelligence agency, and whether Britain’s dependency on the NSA has become too great. (link)
January 23rd, 2017, three days after President Trump’s inauguration, the head of the U.K. General Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ) unexpectedly resigns:
Robert Hannigan, the director of GCHQ, has resigned from his job as head of one of the three Government intelligence agencies after just two years.
GCHQ would only say that Mr Hannigan had left his post for “personal reasons” and that he was not sacked or subject to disciplinary proceedings. (link)
[Previously] In hindsight, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers may have notified Team Trump of Obama’s Intelligence Community (James Clapper and John Brennan) involvement or engagement in surveillance activity.
As you look at the dates below, it’s important to note that NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers would be keenly aware of both the June FISA request – Denied, and the October request – Granted. Pay specific attention to the October request. “October”!.
June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.
October 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons.
Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.
♦ On Tuesday November 8th, 2016 the election was held. Results announced Wednesday November 9th, 2016.
♦ On Thursday November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York and met with President-Elect Donald Trump.
♦ On Friday November 18th The Washington Post reported on a recommendation in “October” that Mike Rogers be removed from his NSA position:
The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed.
The recommendation, delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., according to several U.S. officials familiar with the matter.
[…] In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer, Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower. That caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal personnel matters. (link)
Remember, historically The Washington Post is the preferred outlet for the CIA and Intelligence Community within Deep State to dump their “leaks” and stories. [The State Department “leaks” to CNN for the same purposes.]
♦ On Saturday November 19th Reuters reported on the WaPo Story and additional pressure by Defense Secretary Ash Carter and DNI James Clapper to fire Mike Rogers.
[…] The Washington Post reported that a decision by Rogers to travel to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday without notifying superiors caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, but the recommendation to remove him predated his visit. (link)
If you just look at the timeline of activity a picture emerges:
Occam’s Razor. NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers didn’t want to participate in the spying scheme (Clapper, Brennan, Etc.), which was the baseline for President Obama’s post presidency efforts to undermine Donald Trump and keep Trump from digging into the Obama labyrinth underlying his remaining loyalists. After the October spying or surveillance operation went into effect, Rogers unknown loyalty was a risk to the Obama objective. 10 Days after the election Rogers travels to President-Elect Trump without notifying those who were involved in the intel scheme.
Did NSA Director Mike Rogers wait for a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) to be set up in Trump Tower, and then notify the President-elect he was being monitored by a group representing President Obama’s interests?
With the Truth the pieces always fit, with a lie they never do.
This is a BIG LIE and Big Crime. There is no way anything this involved can totally hide from a serious examination of the fact.
Databases can be purged, but interconnected ones like this are archived and always leave trails. No way to totally expunge something this large and widespread.
Explaining.... after the arrests and detention at an unknown, ungiven location
From the article:
“...Did NSA Director Mike Rogers wait for a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) to be set up in Trump Tower, and then notify the President-elect he was being monitored by a group representing President Obama’s interests?
….Seems likely.”
Did anyone see construction workers at Trump Tower between June 2016 and November 17th, 2016 ?
If not, then Mike Rogers could still circumvent surveillance by writing down what he wanted to say, and showing it to President-elect Trump, then shredding it.
Jim Robinson wrote:
“Beyond criminal. Obama & Co. are actively engeged in a conspiracy to overthrow the duly elected U.S. government. Treason!”
Yes, those traitors are doing something much much worse than Watergate.
Add sedition, incitement to riot, and RICO to that treason.
Book em, try em, convict em, and sentence em.
Exactly so. A cynically funny question to ponder is whether Obama himself realizes this. I'd wager he doesn't, and in his malignant mind actually believes he's been calling the shots.
Thanks for that background info; I think Coney was trying to get the word out.
ROCKLOBSTER wrote:
“SCREAMING: “If that f-—ing bastard wins, we’ll all hang from nooses!”
WTF?
Her husband wasn’t running for anything.”
illary was referring to Trump, not billyjeff.
FredZarguna wrote:
“Not news. FReepers have been saying this is the way that Zero got past the intelligence services for about two weeks.
Why did Zero sign the EO permitting unvetted NSA communications monitoring to be disseminated among other Federal agencies without NSA edits? Not just because it would make it more difficult to discover the leakers as Mark Levin and others have been saying, but also because it allowed an end-run around Mike Rogers.
Zero, Clapper, and the SecDef needed to neutralize Rogers but could not do so without risking that Rogers might go public. By effectively taking control over surveillance releases out of his hands, 0bama and his minions, flunkies, and stooges “fired” Mike Rogers without having to pay the cost. That is almost certainly the reason for Rogers meeting with Trump after the initial, unauthorized confab that put Rogers in the Deep State’s cross-hairs in the first place.
Now... if Rogers is as smart as people say he is, and if he has a few people whom he absolutely trusts at NSA, he has had the NSA monitoring the other US intel agencies, and may already have placed information about who the leakers are in the hands of the President. That evidence, which came later, was probably what prompted Trump’s “baseless” wiretap tweet.
If so, his current silence in the face of the media onslaught means that he has been giving the Dems, Clapper, Juan McCain, et al just about enough rope to hang themselves.”
Two meetings? One on Nov 17th and when was the other one?
FredZarguna wrote:
“Friends vouching for him notwithstanding, Comey has a history with the Clintons going all the way back to the wrist slap he and Lynch delivered in the BCCI case, which suggests very strongly that he is — and always has been — a dirty cop. We’ll see about him as this unravels.”
Fred,
BCCI !!??!!
I stand corrected....
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This doesn’t surprise me. Which is why I posted basically the whole article.
We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, nor should we. Two aphorisms are appropriate here:
BKMRK
Some super slo-mo cameras would be good too!
Same holds true, they'll never lay hands on the first negro president. Never.
Looks like Ash Carter needs to be added to the traitor / scumbag list (no surprise).
All very interesting, and possibly true, but not really evidence or proof of anything. If it was done through the UK, I doubt we will ever have any proof of it.
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