If no bill is passed, won’t Obamacare collapse by the end of the year? Maybe just let that happen, then repeal it and add free market reforms.
Good let obozocare fail on its own
We need to implement creeping capitalism, HSAs that swamp the rest of the bad market.
If conservatives hold out for free market health care, repeal may never happen.
Fine. Just eliminate the mandates and leave the rest of it as-is. It will implode even faster than it already is.
There is a reason I gave up my lifetime membership in the R party when dubya was president and they controlled the entire congress and did nothing. I feel oddly vindicated.
And this is why I bought my farm (now 32 acres) in south Central KY two weeks before the 2008 election and moved there from Seattle. I was forced to deal with it myself and prepare for this crap.
The only decent bill is to remove the ILLEGAL actions of the federal government and return healthcare to the states or the people thereof.
Government forcing an individual to buy something is ILLEGAL!
Forcing an individual to buy a car is ILLEGAL!
Forcing an individual to buy an iPhone is ILLEGAL!
Forcing an individual to buy a house is ILLEGAL!
Forcing an individual to buy healthcare is ILLEGAL!
Fine. Let it collapse. It is all on Ryan.
Sounds like the Spectator wants to be the turd in the punch bowl. The conservatives need to stand strong, there is no rteform with the return to the free market. NO! to Ryancare!NO! to McConnelcare.
I suspect some of these
“no” are just beltway swamp dwellers protecting big government.
now we have son of kookpaul
The House leadership represents the establishment Uniparty that likes Obamacare and just wants to “fix” it and change the name.
They want to keep the structure.
If not repealed in it’s entirety, it will never be repealed, just tweaked endlessly.
Federal control of healthcare is ILLEGAL!!
Some Headlines on 03/08/2017 from “conservative” sites (not inclusive):
Conservative Group Club for Growth Opposes Paul Ryan’s Obamacare-Lite
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/07/conservative-group-club-for-growth-opposes-paul-ryans-obamacare-lite/
FreedomWorks Opposes Speaker Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0 Plan
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/07/freedomworks-opposes-speaker-ryans-obamacare-2-0-plan/
Rep. Thomas Massie: GOP Obamacare repeal ‘stinking pile of garbage’ written by the ‘insurance lobby,’ and it ‘will fail’
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rep.-thomas-massie-gop-obamacare-repeal-stinking-pile-of-garbage-written-by-the-insurance-lobby-and-it-will-fail/article/2616708
6 moronic arguments for RINOcare, refuted
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/6-moronic-arguments-for-rinocare-refuted
What’s so wrong with Ryancare? Levin breaks it down by the numbers
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/whats-so-wrong-with-ryancare-levin-breaks-it-down-by-the-numbers
Levin explains why ‘RINOcare’ threatens the American way of life
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/levin-explains-why-rinocare-threatens-the-american-way-of-life
GOP rep: Voters want ‘clean’ ObamaCare repeal
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/health-reform-implementation/322898-gop-rep-voters-want-clean-obamacare-repeal
Conservatives to Use ‘Enormous Power’ to Fight Obamacare Replacement Bill
http://dailysignal.com/2017/03/07/conservative-lawmakers-to-use-their-enormous-power-to-fight-obamacare-replacement-bill/
Trump Loyalist Eric Bolling TRASHES Trump-Supported ‘Obamacare 2.0!’
http://politistick.com/eric-bolling-trashes-obamacare-2-0-video/
Exclusive — New Web Ad Targets Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0, Questions If Republicans Will Keep Promise to Repeal
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/08/exclusive-new-web-ad-targets-paul-ryans-obamacare-2-0-questions-republicans-will-keep-promise-repeal/
Exclusive — House Freedom Caucus Not Budging, Official Position Is for Full Repeal Alternative to Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/08/exclusive-house-freedom-caucus-not-budging-official-position-paul-ryans-obamacare-2-0/
Mike Lee Gives Scathing Statement on Obamacare Replacement Bill
http://politistick.com/mike-lee-gives-scathing-statement-on-obamacare-replacement-bill/
The House GOP Leadership’s Health Care Bill Is ObamaCare-Lite — Or Worse
https://www.cato.org/blog/house-gop-leaderships-health-care-bill-obamacare-lite-or-worse
Obamacare 2.0 Guts Enforcement, Gives Illegal Aliens Health Care Through Identity Fraud
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/07/obamacare-2-0-guts-enforcement-gives-illegal-aliens-healthcare-through-identity-fraud/
“It’s A Train Wreck”: Conservative Groups Revolt Against GOP Healthcare Plan
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-07/its-train-wreck-conservative-groups-slam-gop-healthcare-plan
Conservatives: Paul Ryan’s Healthcare Plan Replaces Obamacare with Obamacare-Lite
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/07/conservatives-paul-ryans-healthcare-plan-replaces-obamacare-with-obamacare-lite/
Conservative groups blast GOP healthcare plan
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/322717-conservative-groups-blast-gop-healthcare-plan
Freedom Partners, Americans for Prosperity Urge Republican Leaders to Fully Repeal Obamacare, Reject House Bill
https://freedompartners.org/latest-news/freedom-partners-americans-prosperity-urge-republican-leaders-fully-repeal-obamacare-reject-house-bill/
RINOcare Will Continue to Drive Up Costs With Subsidies, Penalties, and Mandates
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/03/07/house-gops-obamacare-replacement-will-make-coverage-unaffordable-for-millions-otherwise-its-great/#7861df1a37fd
Obamacare 2.0 is a gift to illegals. Oh, and GOP? You LIE.
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/obamacare-2-point-0-is-a-gift-to-illegals-oh-and-gop-you-lie
Abandon ship: Conservative groups turn on House GOP’s ObamaCare bill
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/07/abandon-ship-conservative-groups-turn-on-house-gops-obamacare-bill/
GOP critics of Trump health-care plan propose ‘clean repeal’
http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/gop-critics-of-trump-health-care-plan-propose-clean-repeal/
Conservative groups blast GOP healthcare plan
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/322717-conservative-groups-blast-gop-healthcare-plan
RINOcare is NOT Repealing Obamacare; And the GOP Owns It
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/rino-care-a-more-insolvent-version-of-obamacare-except-this-time-gop-owns-it
GOP Plan Fails to Move Past Obamacare’s Progressive Promise
http://heritageaction.com/press-releases/gop-plan-fails-move-past-obamacares-progressive-promise/
Rand Paul: New Healthcare Plan Will Not Pass
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2017/03/07/rand-paul-new-healthcare-plan-will-not-pass-n2295161
5 Serious Problems With RINOcare
http://www.dailywire.com/news/14161/ryancare-5-serious-problems-republican-replacement-ben-shapiro
Trump’s Big-Government Fixes are Giving Conservatives Indigestion
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-big-government-fixes-are-giving-conservatives-indigestion/article/2616273
Dana Loesch: ‘We Didn’t Protest Obamacare for 8 Years to Get Obamacare 2.0 From Congressional Republicans’
http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/03/06/midterms-come-fast-gop-dana-loesch-slams-house-republican-rollout-of-obamacare-2-0/
Rand Paul: House GOP Healthcare Plan Will Not Pass Because it’s Obamacare-Lite
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-paul-house-gop-healthcare-plan-will-not-pass/article/2616645
Leading Conservatives TRASH Obamacare Replacement as RINOcare, Obamacare-Lite, Obamacare 2.0
http://politistick.com/leading-conservatives-grade-obamacare-replacement-big-fat-f/
Freedom Caucus Slams ObamaCare Replacement, Promises ‘Clean Repeal’
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/07/obamacare-critics-freedom-caucus-slam-replacement-will-introduce-clean-repeal-bill
TURBULENT FUTURE? Conservatives escalate fight against ObamaCare repeal bill, vow to create their own
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/07/conservatives-push-back-on-obamacare-repeal-bill-vow-to-introduce-their-own.html
Conservatives Dub Obamacare Replacement Obamacare 2.0, Obamacare-Lite
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/some-conservatives-pan-obamacare-replacement/article/2616629
Establishment RINO Squish Steve Scalise Using Slimeball Leftist Tactic to Get You to Accept Obamacare 2.0
http://politistick.com/establishment-rino-squish-steve-scalise-using-slimeball-tactics-get-accept-rinocare/
RINO House Leadership Announces Obamacare 2.0
http://ijr.com/2017/03/818591-gop-reveals-its-highly-anticipated-plan-to-replace-obamacare-here-are-the-highlights/
House Republicans Unveil RINOCare Bill & It’s DOA
http://thewashingtonstandard.com/house-republicans-unveil-rinocare-bill-doa/
House Republicans’ Obamacare Plan Lacks Party Buy-In
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/03/07/house_republicans_obamacare_plan_lacks_party_buy-in_133272.html
As GOP Introduces Obamacare Replacement, Conservatives Balk: ‘We’ve Got to Do Better’
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/gop-introduces-obamacare-replacement-conservatives-balk-weve-got-do-better
Some Conservatives Balk at Obamacare Replacement
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/03/07/house_republicans_obamacare_plan_lacks_party_buy-in_133272.html
My own health care plan: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3532238/posts?page=53#53
I agree. All these welfare state apparatuses didn’t blossom at one time, they have to be diminished in a wise way. Heck, I even recall Ron Paul talking about reform in that way.
A fight against the progressive wing of the Republican Party is long overdue.
If it’s not repealed, Trump is a one term president
If it collapses, Trump is a one term president. Low info voters will blame the president in charge
That’s why they should have repealed it already.
Nonsense.
If they want to fix Medicaid, the answer is simple. Stop giving it (and other benefits) to women who keep having more and more babies to get more benefits. Stop giving it to illegals who drop anchor babies in our country.
There would be enough money left over to give Medicaid to poor and disabled AMERICANS who have sense enough not to breed like rabbits.
Bill Clinton started this decline with the 1996 Welfare DE-form Act. Made it so that people ages 18-65 have to be on disability to get any help at all—and we all know how near-impossible it is to convince some slimeball judge that you’re disabled. Meanwhile, the gravy train kept on rolling for women having baby after baby in a grab for more benefits.
Obama finished us with the ACA.
We need to repeal the ACA, give assistance to people who DON’T make breeding their career, and go after the healthcare industry so they can’t get away with obscene charges like $25 just to stick the needle into your skin to draw blood, or $6 for a lousy Tylenol. Insurance companies may be gouging us, but they in turn are getting gouged by the medical industry...so they pass the high prices along to us.
Stop the medical industry’s greed, stop the career breeders, and you stop the healthcare crisis in its tracks.
Bump
Just repeal. Why can’t we just go back to the way things were with certain exceptions like tort reform, no care for illegals, emergency room reform, stop drug advertising and punish price gouging. A two page bill will do it. I don’t get all the BS! There is absolutely nothing wrong with our health care it is the insurance that’s causing the problem. Doesn’t sound like it would be that complicated.
“Don’t make the perfect the enemy of the good” is a favorite of mine. But it looks like the new GOP bill is a difference without a distinction.