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Why ObamaCare Cannot Simply Be Repealed… (Dont get PO at not total repeal. Not possible till 18)
conservativetreehouse (Treepers) ^ | March 7, 17 | Sundance.

Posted on 03/07/2017 7:59:07 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

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To: kevao

> Defund it and you own the consequences. Which will be horrendous!

Where do you get this?


141 posted on 03/07/2017 9:40:59 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: dila813

I think you’re being a little harsh here. I was not a Trump supporter in the GOP primaries, but he ended up being the very first political candidate I’ve ever financially supported in my life. He didn’t get this far just to sign his name to some crappy bill for the sake of doing it.


142 posted on 03/07/2017 9:41:52 PM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: dila813
The only guy saying “repeal every word” was Cruz and he lost. Yep, you guys voted for the wrong guy!

Perhaps had Ted not taken a couple of years off his job in the Senate, running for a position he is NOT eligible to hold... He could have already in hand that legislation to "repeal every word"... I voted for the 'right' guy, he is Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of president...

143 posted on 03/07/2017 9:42:58 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: dila813

Shows you how crooked they are that they won’t.


144 posted on 03/07/2017 9:43:38 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I am not talking about a mandate for ins companies to cover pre-exising...I’m talking about a wind-down of some Obamacare provisions. Make it a year.

There are few paths to market-based health care, and many to single-payer, which was always the end game. We need to be careful.


145 posted on 03/07/2017 9:44:13 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SubMareener

> So you want to cancel all the current policies issued by the Exchanges and terminate the Medicaid expansion in those States that have opted for it?

Current policies expire annually.

Medicaid expansion is a separate issue that has NOTHING to do with ACA repeal.

Repeal ACA and pass a separate bill to expand Medicaid.


146 posted on 03/07/2017 9:45:09 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: kevao
Do the best you can to put the blame on the Democrats

Will not work; Republicans must pass a bill this year or risk losing the House in 2018. If that happens, history will judge those who blocked a deal very harshly.
147 posted on 03/07/2017 9:48:29 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

0 votes in the Senate are not needed. Republicans have merely to do things the way Democrats do them i.e. abolish the last vestige of the filibuster. That only needs 51 votes. The filibuster has outlived its usefulness in that it is not even used any more. It is merely announced and the Senate just freezes up. They don’t require Senators to actually hold the floor.


148 posted on 03/07/2017 9:49:07 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: Ray76

The Medicaid expansion was part of Obamacare. It is hard to have a rational discussion with people who don’t know what they are talking about.


149 posted on 03/07/2017 9:50:24 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

They are”doing what they are doing” to force us into Single Payer, the gold standard for Democrats and their junior division, the Republicans.


150 posted on 03/07/2017 9:51:08 PM PST by arthurus (.They are doing what they are doing in order to render things hopeless and bring on Single Payer)
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To: arthurus

You have a point. Who cares how long Cruz read Dr Seuss.

It was a big fat waste of time.


151 posted on 03/07/2017 9:51:28 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

EEE, the problem is, correct me if I am wrong, but Trump ran on some variation of “replace” following “repeal”. Even if the “replacement” were to be 95% pro-market reforms and deregulation, he can say that he kept his promise, and everyone is better off for it.

I know of at least one Trump voter, who was planning to vote for the Arkansas Medusa, solely because of health insurance, until Trump made the case that as a businessman he would get a better deal. We need to tread VERY carefully.


152 posted on 03/07/2017 9:54:02 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Just give all Americans a $5,000 tax credit toward all health-care expenses. That will resolve it.


153 posted on 03/07/2017 9:54:57 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (STOP THE TAPE!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Well then they ought to write a bill that isn’t the same old crap. Right now what they offer is worse


154 posted on 03/07/2017 9:57:14 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Just give all Americans a $5,000 tax credit toward all health-care expenses. That will resolve it.”

I am talking about someone in a very modest income bracket, with no health insurance provided by her employer.

What is the point of a tax credit for someone who doesn’t pay much beyond payroll taxes? Ultimately this person needs a cheap insurance policy with decent coverage and a reasonable deductible.

There needs to be more competition in medicine and cost of drugs needs to drop drastically.


155 posted on 03/07/2017 10:00:02 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I like the way you think better.

This is a paradigm issue. It reminds me of the old Monty Python Spam bit. Any national health care “plan” has too much Spam in it! We want the fedgov OUT of the health care biz.

If these dribs and drabs could ever do it, I’ll stand corrected.


156 posted on 03/07/2017 10:00:02 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Just mythoughts

Excuse


157 posted on 03/07/2017 10:01:11 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: Alberta's Child

SO?


158 posted on 03/07/2017 10:02:19 PM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: Ray76

> Defund it and you own the consequences. Which will be horrendous!

Where do you get this?

_________________________

What don’t you understand? That if you simply defund ObamaCare without changing the law, you own the consequences? Or that the consequences of simply defunding ObamaCare without changing the law will not prevent the impending implosion of the health-insurance market?


159 posted on 03/07/2017 10:02:57 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: SubMareener

I know it was. SO WHAT?


160 posted on 03/07/2017 10:03:14 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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