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Historians rank Obama 12th best president in new survey [Major Barf Alert]
Fox News Politics ^ | February 18, 2017 | FNC Staff

Posted on 02/18/2017 7:24:29 PM PST by Boomer

C-SPAN released a survey Friday that asked historians to rank past presidents and former-President Obama was voted the country's 12th best, right behind Woodrow Wilson and in front of James Monroe.

Historians were asked to essentially grade the presidents on items like “public persuasion” and “moral authority.” Politico reported that Obama rated high in the category of “equal justice for all,” but received low marks for his relationship with Congress.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barf; fakenews; historians; liberalpropaganda; lyingliars; obama; politico; propaganda; realpropaganda; revisionism; vomit
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To: Boomer

How is it possible that he was not first???? /sarc


21 posted on 02/18/2017 7:33:00 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Boomer
In order for such "opinions" to hold value, one must understand the ideological orientation of the "historian." Evaluations of Presidents merely reflect the limitations of the minds and biases of those doing the opinion piece.

Donald Trump recently observed: "Yet today, 240 years after the Revolution, we have turned things completely upside-down." - Donald Trump

And it's not just about jobs and economic opportunity. It's about freedom, exercise of "Creator-endowed rights and liberties," and opportunity for each citizen, not just self-appointed elitists who fancy themselves as entitled to make decisions for all.

Thomas Jefferson wrote to Roger Weightman on June 24, 1826:

" I should, indeed, with peculiar delight, have met and exchanged there congratulations personally with the small band, the remnant of that host of worthies, who joined with us on that day, in the bold and doubtful election we were to make for our country, between submission or the sword; and to have enjoyed with them the consolatory fact, that our fellow citizens, after half a century of experience and prosperity, continue to approve the choice we made. may it be to the world, what I believe it will be, (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all,) the Signal of arousing men to burst the chains, under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings & security of self-government. That form which we have substituted, restores the free right to the unbounded exercise of reason and freedom of opinion. all eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. the general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view. the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of god. these are grounds of hope for others. for ourselves, let the annual return of this day forever refresh our recollections of these rights, and an undiminished devotion to them."

Some time ago, I posted the following:

"Perhaps the so-called "progressive" enemies of freedom understand better than those who fancy themselves as "conservatives" that in order to reverse the Founders' ideas of "People over government," and institute "government over People," they must first marginalize and destroy the ideas from which liberty is derived.

The writings of America's Founders are replete with references which rebuke would-be tyrants and cite a Higher Source for life, liberty and rights. Early histories confirm those facts.

As so-called "progressives" have led a movement in forsaking the Founders' "reliance on Divine Providence," and belief that individuals are "endowed by their Creator," they also have forsaken the principles underlying America's Constitution and Declaration of Independence, and are systematically dismantling the greatest protections for liberty ever established for a people.

"Ideas have consequences"(Weaver).

The ideas of 1776 came out of a set of ideas consistent with liberty.

We tend to forget, or have never considered, that other world views existed then, as now.

Unless today's citizens rediscover the ideas of liberty existing in what Jefferson called "the American mind" of 1776, we risk going back to the "Old World" ideas which preceded the "Miracle of America."

There are those who call themselves "progressives," when, in fact, their ideas are regressive and enslaving, and as old as the history of civilization.

Would suggest to any who wish an authentic history of the ideas underlying American's founding a visit to this web site, at which Richard Frothingham's outstanding 1872 "History of the Rise of the Republic of the United States" can be read on line.

This 600+-page history traces the ideas which gave birth to the American founding. Throughout, Richard Frothingham, the historian, develops the idea that it is "the Christian idea of man" which allowed the philosophy underlying the Declaration of Independence and Constitution to become a reality--an idea which recognizes the individual and the Source of his/her "Creator"-endowed life, liberty and law.

Is there any wonder that the enemies of freedom, the so-called "progressives," do not promote such authentic histories of America? Their philosophy puts something called "the state," or "global interests" as being superior to individuals and requires a political elitist group to decide what role individuals are to play.

In other words, they must turn the Founders' ideas upside-down in order to achieve a common mediocrity for individuals and power for themselves.


22 posted on 02/18/2017 7:33:21 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Boomer

...Historians rank Obama 12th best president in new survey....

That’s when compared with Presidents of former Soviet Socialist Republic Satellite countries such as Romania and Lithuania.


23 posted on 02/18/2017 7:34:01 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning)
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To: Boomer

I thought Coolidge was ranked too low.


24 posted on 02/18/2017 7:35:34 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (What difference does it make? A big difference!)
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To: Boomer

Fake news.......?


25 posted on 02/18/2017 7:35:50 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Boomer

I would rank 0bama among US presidents as worse than Woodrow Wilson and Hugo Chavez.


26 posted on 02/18/2017 7:35:58 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Boomer

“Equal justice for all”, unless you are Republican, a Jew or Christian, or a conservative. 46 th best president.


27 posted on 02/18/2017 7:38:49 PM PST by anoldafvet
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To: Boomer

28 posted on 02/18/2017 7:38:53 PM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: Boomer

He was the WORST OF ALL TIME!!! I assure you. he was a moslem!!


29 posted on 02/18/2017 7:39:33 PM PST by WENDLE (TRUMP 2020 !!! It is ON!! God blessed this country!!)
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To: Boomer

Trying to figure out which presidents would rank worse than a guy that brought terrorists into the White House to consult with, and armed and funded three different terrorist groups sworn to destroy the United States.

Oh, and he tried to force Israel to make peace with two others, I believe it was.

What other presidents bowed before other world leaders causing the U. S. to be seen as inferior on the world stage?

What other president told illegal aliens to vote, because nobody was going to come after them for doing so?

What other presidents refused to even say the name of a movement intent on destroying U. S. Citizens and our nation? Islamic Fundamentalist terrorism...

What other president left office with over 75 million able bodied U. S. Citizens out of work?

What other presidents tried to fan the flames of racism and defend racist rioters and looters?

What other presidents labeled attacks on U. S. Citizens inside our own borders, “Work Place Violence” rather than the terrorism it was?

What other president and his staff actively sought to escalate a very manageable situation into a global world war?

What other president actively set up a network of 250 staffed offices across the nation to perpetrate violence and seek to undermine the duly elected U. S. President and the U. S. Federal government, after he left office?

12th? Preposterous.

12th Imam maybe.


30 posted on 02/18/2017 7:39:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: loveliberty2

Great post. Thank you.


31 posted on 02/18/2017 7:41:31 PM PST by Fungi (Every breath, another five thousand fungal spores enter your body. All five thousand will be named.)
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To: DoughtyOne

How many presidents do you know of that received the Nobel Peace Prize based on the color of his skin?


32 posted on 02/18/2017 7:41:55 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: buffaloguy

I was told exactly that. As I approached the end of my undergraduate career (BA in history) I mentioned to a professor that I wanted to pursue a graduate degree in history. He took me aside and explained that with my politics, I would never be allowed a job in the field. So I went another way and ended up in IT.


33 posted on 02/18/2017 7:42:14 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Boomer

34 posted on 02/18/2017 7:42:20 PM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: Boomer

Is this from The Onion?


35 posted on 02/18/2017 7:42:49 PM PST by Baynative ( Someone's going to have to pay for these carbon emissions, so it might as well be you.)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

Maybe it was the peace he made with Michael so he could run for office.


36 posted on 02/18/2017 7:43:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Innovative
Who are these “historians”

I'm sure all historians' opinions count. The ones that matter, anyway.
37 posted on 02/18/2017 7:43:55 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Boomer

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

WORST:

Obambi
LBJ
Clinton
Cooter
JFK
Truman


38 posted on 02/18/2017 7:43:56 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT Mexico NFL PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: jarofants

....it wasn’t his basketball skills (fat lip)
...it wasn’t his impersonation of a female baseball picture
....it wasn’t his attempt with kite surfing
..he can ride a girls bike


39 posted on 02/18/2017 7:44:34 PM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: WENDLE

“He was the WORST OF ALL TIME!!!”

By a very, very...very WIDE margin.


40 posted on 02/18/2017 7:44:46 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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