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Self-Driving Cars Will Decide Who Lives & Who Dies
Industrial Equipment News ^ | 1-18-2017 | Matt O'Brien

Posted on 01/18/2017 10:09:45 AM PST by fishtank

Self-Driving Cars Will Decide Who Lives & Who Dies

But how will they make that decision?

Contributor: Matt O'Brien

BOSTON (AP) — Imagine you're behind the wheel when your brakes fail. As you speed toward a crowded crosswalk, you're confronted with an impossible choice: veer right and mow down a large group of elderly people, or veer left into a woman pushing a stroller.

Now imagine you're riding in the back of a self-driving car. How would it decide?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cars
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To: NorthMountain
We don’t need “self-driving” cars!!!!

What technological innovations do we "need"?

Do we need cell phones? Cable TV? GPS units?

All of the people on here saying "I will never have a self-driving car" sound an awful like the old coots in the early 2000's who said "I will never have cell phone" or "What do I need a computer for?" I don't know if self driving cars will be good for us as a society or not but I do know one thing.....they are not just coming, they are here. Like it or not, most kids being born today will probably never get a driver's license. Their children will be as likely to know how to drive a car as kids today are to know how to ride a horse.

41 posted on 01/18/2017 10:35:55 AM PST by nitzy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
You are driving by a park and a kid runs out in front of you chasing a ball. You cannot break in time to avoid hitting him. If you swerve right, you will hit a bunch of other kids in the park. If you swerve left, you will hit an oncoming car head on.

Which will your car choose?


The funny thing is, I actually HAVE had the catastrophic brake failure, as a new driver in a 1968 Dodge Dart in knee deep rain. My choices were rear ending the car in front of me, a headon going left, or a telephone pole going right. I chose the pole, bumped my head (no shulder belt), totaled the car, and got a $35 ticket "failure to drive right".

In the scenario you describe, the Hyundai self drivers ASSUME any kid on the side of the road is going to scoot out, and drives even slower. Assuming the kid came out of a blind spot (parked car) I imagine the car would choose the head-on collision.
42 posted on 01/18/2017 10:36:04 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The biggest issue with how the self-driving car decides between two disastrous scenarios isn't the technical aspect of it -- it's a question of who then takes on the liability for the decision that is made.

I work in a field that is dealing with the infrastructure and operational aspects of self-driving cars, and I've said for a long time that the main impediment to adopting self-driving car technology is the legal challenge of transforming from user-based liability/insurance to manufacturer-based product liability.

43 posted on 01/18/2017 10:36:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Sans-Culotte
I frankly don't see it happening in our lifetimes. It's like those flying cars that are always shown in depictions of the future. They're a looooong way off IMO.

I don't think they are that long off. I fully expect that self-driving trucks will be common on the highways within 5 years. At first, they will be required to have drivers, who will use the self driving feature like a pilot uses autopilot. Eventually, the truck drivers will be eliminated completely.

Self driving cars in cities is more problematic. They are safer if everyone is using them. Not so much when they are competing with human drivers in crowded traffic.

44 posted on 01/18/2017 10:36:59 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!)
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To: fishtank

Self-Driving Cars - Just another public transportation system.


45 posted on 01/18/2017 10:37:22 AM PST by indthkr
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To: HarleyLady27

We’ll see how this all plays out, but I think it is a very short step from “driverless cars” to driverless cars that require buying assorted special government chip privileges to go certain places in lieu of toll booths.

Next, liberals will want programs written that will aggregate data and determine who is going where all for the super innocuous benefit of automatically “helping” people car pool. This is before they actually mandate car pooling if the algorithm shows your going to the same location at roughly the same time. Otherwise - surprise! - you can pay a hefty fee to use your individual driverless car. Really, not much different than car pooling lanes in many cities — outside of the sheer coercion.

I’m not against technology, but it seems to me that there are forces out there that are moving mountains to bring about driverless cars. For what real reason or benefit? And more importantly, who is asking for driverless cars? As far as I can see, no one at all has been clamoring for driverless cars outside of groups and people who are certain that globull warming is a major issue.

And that’s what scares me!


46 posted on 01/18/2017 10:38:02 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Snickering Hound

lol

Not a self driving car. But a BLONDE driving car.

I’d rather take my chances with the former over the latter.


47 posted on 01/18/2017 10:38:21 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Dr. Sivana

You do know about many opponents of the Deep State who died in airplane crashes. Now imagine Deep State can target its opponents driving or riding in self-driving cars. And anyone who notices this publicly goes to the top of the list.

Even if you can’t picture this in the USA, imagine a Stalin or Pol Pot hiring experts to do this, where it is normal to not have many vocal opponents.


48 posted on 01/18/2017 10:38:24 AM PST by bIlluminati (Balance the budget. Defund the Left!)
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To: rey

Shareef don’t like it


49 posted on 01/18/2017 10:38:46 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: fishtank

If it’s programmed by the far left tech companies, it will automatically go after the white pedestrians first, lol.


50 posted on 01/18/2017 10:42:03 AM PST by angelrod
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To: fishtank

I’m still waiting for the FLYING JETSON CARS like they were
showing on cartoons when I was a kid. Heck. What I have
now is more like Fred Flintstone’s car with the rock
wheels that we have to use foot power to move it along the
road.


51 posted on 01/18/2017 10:43:30 AM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Technology is never a substitute for good management (decision making).


True. Technology just makes good management much, much easier.


52 posted on 01/18/2017 10:43:36 AM PST by marktwain
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To: fishtank

The purpose of self driving cars is to take away your freedom of movement.


53 posted on 01/18/2017 10:43:52 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Dr. Sivana
Assuming the kid came out of a blind spot (parked car) I imagine the car would choose the head-on collision.

I have had that happen to me. It was a busy 4 lane highway alongside a city park with a row of cars parked along the side of the park. I was on the inside lane. 5 year old kid shoots out into the highway chasing a ball. I was lucky there was no car in the right lane and was able to swerve right. The oncoming car in the inside lane also swerved to his right, but he was not as lucky.

54 posted on 01/18/2017 10:44:01 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!)
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To: Alberta's Child

it’s a question of who then takes on the liability for the decision that is made.


Maybe we can call it an act of God like we used to do, then everyone is off the hook?


55 posted on 01/18/2017 10:44:02 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: HarleyLady27

“Anyone who would want one these ‘cars’ is insane...”

what I’m thinking is each car will need multiple sensors. At any given time in a well used car, at least a couple sensors will be kaput, making the car undriveable.


56 posted on 01/18/2017 10:44:22 AM PST by DaxtonBrown
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To: Alberta's Child
it's a question of who then takes on the liability for the decision that is made

There is no question that whoever gets hit, the car manufacturer will get sued.

57 posted on 01/18/2017 10:45:20 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!)
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To: fishtank

I was a math-and-science nerd growing up.

I am currently writing a science fiction novel.

I think self-driving cars (so called) are an absurdly reckless idea that only disconnected tech geeks could conjure.

(I already hate electric cars: I have nearly been run over by the silent little monsters more than once.)


58 posted on 01/18/2017 10:45:46 AM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: RepRivFarm

We already have self-driving vehicles - buses in Las Vegas. Right now, they have a maximum speed of 15 mph, and serve a loop around the Strip.

18-wheelers are the big market on the interstate. Trucking companies are having trouble filling jobs as older truckers retire, as young men and women don’t want to be away from Facebook/video games/family/friends. Plus many couldn’t regularly pass a drug test, even a pre-employment drug test.


59 posted on 01/18/2017 10:46:45 AM PST by bIlluminati (Balance the budget. Defund the Left!)
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To: fishtank

” How would it decide?”

It would have slowed down and braked.


60 posted on 01/18/2017 10:47:28 AM PST by TexasGator
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