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The Journal can't seem to utter the words: American First.

Much less even conceive it.

Their prism is still only conventional left or right.

1 posted on 12/05/2016 6:41:20 PM PST by Mariner
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It has a name: political realignment. And it is long overdue. The new norm will not be left/right, but globalist/nationalist.


2 posted on 12/05/2016 6:43:40 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To follow up, as much as we malign the commie Sanders, we still have more in common with him than Hillary, in that both Bernie (I think) and Trump care something about the American worker (though the solutions are opposite).

With Hillary, what drives her is totally anathema to nearly all views we hold dear. Politics makes for strange bedfellows, as we saw some Berniebots defecting to Trump this cycle.


4 posted on 12/05/2016 6:47:27 PM PST by XEHRpa
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Told some friends of mine this yesterday:

The reason why so many... so MANY... were driven certifiably insane by this election is that it DIDN'T fit into their very narrow mentality of left versus right. They literally could not then and can not now comprehend Trump. That he has been neither a real Republican or a conservative but that doesn't make him a Democrat or a liberal either.

This election was a graphic demonstration of generations of public "education" and how it has destroyed the capacity of many if not MOST Americans to think critically and on their own. Without that conservative/liberal false dichotomy, they are hopeless and HELPLESS. No wonder they often lashed out like crazed animals.

5 posted on 12/05/2016 6:49:10 PM PST by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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The Trump campaign lasted more that a year and these idiots still believe in the old R vs D, Lib vs Con paradigms. Or are they just hoping that we stop noticing that the paradigm for the 21st century is Transnational Progressive vs Americanism (or Britishness or Italianism or whatever).

People want their countries back!


6 posted on 12/05/2016 6:49:45 PM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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If President Barack Obama sought to usher America into a postracial era...

The first 12 words are utter BS.

7 posted on 12/05/2016 6:49:58 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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..The Journal can’t seem to utter the words: American First...
That has been.part of Democrat ideologies for decades. Only this time it bit them in the butt.


8 posted on 12/05/2016 6:51:10 PM PST by Sasparilla (I 'm Not Tired Of Winning)
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Oh, pulease—read FR recently? A portion of the forum was up-in-arms when Trump dared to pick an executive of Goldman Sachs for his Cabinet. And you think this writer is the problem? lol


9 posted on 12/05/2016 6:51:16 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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postracial era

postideological era

impossible to identify a clear ideological bent

definitions of left and right, liberal and conservative, are being scrambled

populist outsider



Gerald is apparently a total idiot.

Its called Pro-America.

It's also not even in their vocabulary.

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10 posted on 12/05/2016 6:51:24 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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God has, however improbably, begun to bless America again.

Far-lefties are a plague, and they are pretty much the kind of lefties we have now. They make a mockery out of the term “liberal” which used to be something respectable when it first appeared. They want YOUR skin to be given liberally... but their OWN skin? No way.

A hard conservative camp has formed as a defensive maneuver against the depredations of these far-lefties, and some of them get so visceral about it that to them the only good lefty is a dead lefty. Just ask FR!

We forget sometimes that both of these had more moderate stances in the past. The moderate lefty tried to be generous himself as he urged others to be generous. And he understood that certain things would poison the formula. Just ask, even now, that blue dog Kim Davis, the Democrat in Kentucky. The moderate righty, in turn, wouldn’t try to hound you into hating the lefties. “I like Ike.”

Donald came in boldly promising “to bring America together.” It looks like he just might. By bringing both sides closer to the middle, he will keep more relationships within a workable tolerance.


11 posted on 12/05/2016 6:51:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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These retards just don’t get it.

Without securing the Constitution nothing else matters.

If Trump wore a bunny suit and sported gold lipstick it wouldn’t matter so long as he wanted to protect and secure the Constitution through SCOTUS picks.

As a bonus, his policy positions are remarkably conservative.

Conservative is as conservative does. Not as Conservative preens and scribes George Will you unholy ball of suck.


12 posted on 12/05/2016 6:53:06 PM PST by Eddie01
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Months ago I observed here that Trump's secret electoral strength is that he is not a conservative ideologue, but rather a pragmatist. That means he will do what promises to work. Given the Thatcherian axiom that "the facts of life are conservative," I have confidence that Trump will do just fine.
16 posted on 12/05/2016 6:56:09 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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More pretend news...again...


21 posted on 12/05/2016 6:58:46 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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As long as Trump adheres to the Constitution, protects American citizens’ God-given rights, and puts American first, I don’t care if he is a “conservative”.

As far as I am concerned the inbred Bush dynasty and their fellow travelers, the GOPe, and the traitorous, so-called Chamber of Commece, have forever tarnished the word “conservative”. Those globalist pukes and the communist Democrats deserve to be hounded into the political wilderness.


27 posted on 12/05/2016 7:04:21 PM PST by WMarshal ( Schadenfreude, it feels so good!)
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Check out this thread. Trump is going after the “globalists” by appointing them. LOLOL


28 posted on 12/05/2016 7:06:56 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjcr_jTy97QAhVFymMKHS_MD80QqQIIHjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fdonald-trump-shuffles-the-ideological-deck-1480955194&usg=AFQjCNEt3wJHOqI6lBe59F2_LAVybv6jkA&sig2=AuGTOY4rCt-laKzjkMYoGQ

Gets around the paywall


29 posted on 12/05/2016 7:07:30 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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FYI, a way around paywall articles is to post a link via a google search. Goes from here to google... they get to cheat and go to the story. Use google. Don’t trust them but hey. You posted a link to google.


33 posted on 12/05/2016 7:11:05 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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Well, Trump was and is pretty liberal or statist on a lot of things. He’s never been in government and I think he’s not totally sure about what to do now.

However, I think he really does have some good advisors and they’re taking him down another path. It is a path of unity in a good way. If he sticks with them, everybody in the US is going to be happy.

The big question is whether we (meaning all conservatives, whether social or political, GOP or Dem) will be able to get behind a program together without fighting with and mentally killing each other over trivia. Self-assassination has got to stop.


34 posted on 12/05/2016 7:12:41 PM PST by livius
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Let me help you out Gerald.

Strict immigration Control: Conservative (not Republican, but CONSERVATIVE)

Re-industrialization: Conservative

Tax Cuts: Conservative

Regulation Slashing: Conservative

Education Re-localized: Conservative

Rejection of Regime Change as foreign policy: Conservative

Rebuild the US Army/Navy/Airforce: Conservative

Protect and “cherish” the 2A: Conservative

Slash size & cost of Federal Gov’t: Conservative

Kill off Political Correctness: Conservative

F*ck Globalism: Conservative

Reform the VA: Conservative

Rescind Obama’s Exec Orders: Conservative

Renegotiate our God awful Trade deals: Conservative

Put America FIRST: Conservative

Go after Sanctuary Cities and Anchor Babies: Conservative

Appoint strict originalists to SCOTUS: Conservative

Open up lands for energy extraction: Conservative

Get rid of assinine Rules of Engagement for our warriors: Conservative

Killing ObamaCare and opening up insurance to competition: Conservative

Re-dedicating ourselves to Israel’s security: Conservative

Treating Arab Princes like the arseholes they are: Conservative

Calling out the MSM as lying sacks of poop: Conservative

The rest of his agenda is a mish-mash of smelly republicanism and liberalism. But we have not been offered so much conservatism from one candidate since Coolidge, and all from a non-ideologue at that.


41 posted on 12/05/2016 7:38:21 PM PST by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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“Shuffles the ideological deck” is too close to “New Deal”


42 posted on 12/05/2016 7:43:08 PM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo smart)
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I think he’s missing more than a few cards from the Ideological Deck but I guess as the Trump Card he makes up for all that and more.


43 posted on 12/05/2016 7:48:53 PM PST by Theophilus (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom)
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