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Donald Trump Shuffles the Ideological Deck
The Wall Street Journal ^ | December 5th, 2016 | By Gerald F. Seib

Posted on 12/05/2016 6:41:20 PM PST by Mariner

If President Barack Obama sought to usher America into a postracial era, it is increasingly apparent that President-elect Donald Trump is opening the door to the postideological era.

In fact, it’s nearly impossible to identify a clear ideological bent in the incoming president’s early moves. It’s probably a mistake to try, because the definitions of left and right, liberal and conservative, are being scrambled right before our eyes.

Some Trump moves so far track with his populist outsider campaign image. Others are moves a conventional conservative could make. Some on his team would have been comfortable picks by any standard-issue Republican; some could as easily have been made by a Democratic president-elect.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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The Journal can't seem to utter the words: American First.

Much less even conceive it.

Their prism is still only conventional left or right.

1 posted on 12/05/2016 6:41:20 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

It has a name: political realignment. And it is long overdue. The new norm will not be left/right, but globalist/nationalist.


2 posted on 12/05/2016 6:43:40 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To: XEHRpa

You hit the nail right on the head.


3 posted on 12/05/2016 6:45:51 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Mariner

To follow up, as much as we malign the commie Sanders, we still have more in common with him than Hillary, in that both Bernie (I think) and Trump care something about the American worker (though the solutions are opposite).

With Hillary, what drives her is totally anathema to nearly all views we hold dear. Politics makes for strange bedfellows, as we saw some Berniebots defecting to Trump this cycle.


4 posted on 12/05/2016 6:47:27 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To: Mariner
Told some friends of mine this yesterday:

The reason why so many... so MANY... were driven certifiably insane by this election is that it DIDN'T fit into their very narrow mentality of left versus right. They literally could not then and can not now comprehend Trump. That he has been neither a real Republican or a conservative but that doesn't make him a Democrat or a liberal either.

This election was a graphic demonstration of generations of public "education" and how it has destroyed the capacity of many if not MOST Americans to think critically and on their own. Without that conservative/liberal false dichotomy, they are hopeless and HELPLESS. No wonder they often lashed out like crazed animals.

5 posted on 12/05/2016 6:49:10 PM PST by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: Mariner

The Trump campaign lasted more that a year and these idiots still believe in the old R vs D, Lib vs Con paradigms. Or are they just hoping that we stop noticing that the paradigm for the 21st century is Transnational Progressive vs Americanism (or Britishness or Italianism or whatever).

People want their countries back!


6 posted on 12/05/2016 6:49:45 PM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Mariner
If President Barack Obama sought to usher America into a postracial era...

The first 12 words are utter BS.

7 posted on 12/05/2016 6:49:58 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Mariner

..The Journal can’t seem to utter the words: American First...
That has been.part of Democrat ideologies for decades. Only this time it bit them in the butt.


8 posted on 12/05/2016 6:51:10 PM PST by Sasparilla (I 'm Not Tired Of Winning)
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To: Mariner

Oh, pulease—read FR recently? A portion of the forum was up-in-arms when Trump dared to pick an executive of Goldman Sachs for his Cabinet. And you think this writer is the problem? lol


9 posted on 12/05/2016 6:51:16 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mariner
postracial era

postideological era

impossible to identify a clear ideological bent

definitions of left and right, liberal and conservative, are being scrambled

populist outsider



Gerald is apparently a total idiot.

Its called Pro-America.

It's also not even in their vocabulary.

.

10 posted on 12/05/2016 6:51:24 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Mariner

God has, however improbably, begun to bless America again.

Far-lefties are a plague, and they are pretty much the kind of lefties we have now. They make a mockery out of the term “liberal” which used to be something respectable when it first appeared. They want YOUR skin to be given liberally... but their OWN skin? No way.

A hard conservative camp has formed as a defensive maneuver against the depredations of these far-lefties, and some of them get so visceral about it that to them the only good lefty is a dead lefty. Just ask FR!

We forget sometimes that both of these had more moderate stances in the past. The moderate lefty tried to be generous himself as he urged others to be generous. And he understood that certain things would poison the formula. Just ask, even now, that blue dog Kim Davis, the Democrat in Kentucky. The moderate righty, in turn, wouldn’t try to hound you into hating the lefties. “I like Ike.”

Donald came in boldly promising “to bring America together.” It looks like he just might. By bringing both sides closer to the middle, he will keep more relationships within a workable tolerance.


11 posted on 12/05/2016 6:51:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Mariner

These retards just don’t get it.

Without securing the Constitution nothing else matters.

If Trump wore a bunny suit and sported gold lipstick it wouldn’t matter so long as he wanted to protect and secure the Constitution through SCOTUS picks.

As a bonus, his policy positions are remarkably conservative.

Conservative is as conservative does. Not as Conservative preens and scribes George Will you unholy ball of suck.


12 posted on 12/05/2016 6:53:06 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: XEHRpa

Ha!

Sanders cares not a shot for anyone but Bernie.

Give up your naïve views on socialism and socialists.


13 posted on 12/05/2016 6:53:30 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Bryanw92

“People want their countries back!”

Precisely.


14 posted on 12/05/2016 6:54:00 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: XEHRpa
It has a name: political realignment. And it is long overdue. The new norm will not be left/right, but globalist/nationalist.

Yes, Trump is building a second party. Previously we only had the uniparty. And Trump feels (and I agree) that some traditional democrats, like blacks and blue collar workers, have no home anymore in the democrat party, and in fact should come to the republican party. So yes, some of it looks "democrat," even though that's more of putting a wedge between the different groups of democrats.

15 posted on 12/05/2016 6:55:46 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Mariner
Months ago I observed here that Trump's secret electoral strength is that he is not a conservative ideologue, but rather a pragmatist. That means he will do what promises to work. Given the Thatcherian axiom that "the facts of life are conservative," I have confidence that Trump will do just fine.
16 posted on 12/05/2016 6:56:09 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: TLI

Liberals and leftists all say they are pro-American.

They don’t say they are conservative or right.

They don’t claim to be Christian.

But they are sure pro-America, according to them.


17 posted on 12/05/2016 6:57:06 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Hmm they didn’t seem to have such a problem with Dubya when he was pushing mortgages, prescription drug benefits and amnesty.


18 posted on 12/05/2016 6:57:40 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: Eddie01

Noam Chomsky claims he is securing the Constitution.


19 posted on 12/05/2016 6:57:45 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
Bingo!! They cannot pigeon hole Trump and that is driving them crazy. He has shattered the long standing stereotypical mantra of what a “presidential candidate” should be. Trump has never held political office, is not a “politician,” and the lamestream media has no power over him. He is what the founding fathers envisioned as a “politician,” a common man from the masses going to Washington to serve then go home. Let their heads continue exploding. Love it.
20 posted on 12/05/2016 6:58:31 PM PST by Fungi
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