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Fact Check: This Pizzeria Is Not a Child-Trafficking Site
New York Slimes ^

Posted on 11/21/2016 7:33:31 PM PST by TigerClaws

WASHINGTON — Days before the presidential election, James Alefantis, owner of a local pizza restaurant called Comet Ping Pong, noticed an unusual spike in the number of his Instagram followers.

Within hours, menacing messages like “we’re on to you” began appearing in his Instagram feed. In the ensuing days, hundreds of death threats — one read “I will kill you personally” — started arriving via texts, Facebook and Twitter. All of them alleged something that made Mr. Alefantis’s jaw drop: that Comet Ping Pong was the home base of a child abuse ring led by Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief, John D. Podesta.

When Mr. Alefantis discovered that his employees were getting similar abusive messages, he looked online to unravel the accusations. He found dozens of made-up articles about Mrs. Clinton kidnapping, molesting and trafficking children in the restaurant’s back rooms. The articles appeared on Facebook and on websites such as The New Nationalist and The Vigilant Citizen, with one headline blaring: “Pizzagate: How 4Chan Uncovered the Sick World of Washington’s Occult Elite.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alefantis; brock; cometpizza; molester; pedophilering; pedophilia; pingpongpizza; pizza; pizzagate; podesta
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To: Califreak

The NYT would be high up on my list of “fake news” organizations.


41 posted on 11/21/2016 8:05:43 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: TigerClaws

42 posted on 11/21/2016 8:05:51 PM PST by eaglestar
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To: VanShuyten

If the NYT says it is false, then it must be true.

Please please please let this give Rush “cover” to mention it.


43 posted on 11/21/2016 8:06:02 PM PST by freedomlover
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To: William Tell

Or why pizza and hot dogs cost $65,000....


44 posted on 11/21/2016 8:06:17 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

“We know that we have more work to do and we take our responsibility to address online abuse seriously,” Reddit said in a statement.


Lol - Reddit is Autism weaponized.


45 posted on 11/21/2016 8:08:16 PM PST by freedomlover
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To: TigerClaws

well— I am about to tick some folks off.. but— here I go anyway..

I spent about 12 hours yesterday looking into this #pizzagate thing.. so much so, that I missed the first 4 minutes of Walking Dead.

there is no doubt in my mind that there is some sick twisted crapt going on, and Podesta and his brother, and David Brock, and mister Comet ping pong are smack dab in the middle of it all...

HOWEVER- the problem I found is that most of the videos and twitter info, while well intended- get some of the details so flipping wrong, that a cursory look into the facts would send a serious person to dismiss this stuff...

The worst offending untruth is that pictures of the SICK art that is being posted everywhere on Twitter that CLAIMS is actually displayed in Comet Ping Pong— and the art is claimed to be that of Kim Noble—

The truth is, that the art is NOT Kim’s— it is on the internet under the “Virtual Gallery” of Kim Noble, but is is not HER art.... and there is no proof any of THAT art is in the Comet place of business...

there is a legitimate tie to be made in so many other ways with all the other information, but when this is the most visibly shocking way to get attention to this frickin mess- and it turns out to not be accurate- you have folks writing this whole thing off!!

THIS is FR— THIS IS WHAT WE DO!

Let’s NOT be lazy— LET’S GET THIS RIGHT!

I would suggest we start a thread totally dedicated to #pizzagate- and WE all work together to prove what is true, and correct the things that are relevant but not quite accurate in the way it is being thrown around on twitter...

We should just be FREEPERS!


46 posted on 11/21/2016 8:08:48 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE thatEARTH....Archimedes)
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To: ari-freedom

There were over a half a million Twitter trending shares of #SpiritCooking before the election and they shut it down from trending. No telling how many after.

Tens of thousands of people are investigating this. The Molly Twittergate came from that and that exposed 20,000+ Twitter users sharing child porn “in a few hours” (per her Reddit AMA).

What could the FBI do?

The AG’s offices around the country?


47 posted on 11/21/2016 8:08:57 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Yaelle

Is this the place with the disturbing murals?


48 posted on 11/21/2016 8:09:54 PM PST by Bigg Red (To Thee, O Lord, I lift my soul. Thank you for saving our Republic.)
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To: TigerClaws
“We are at a dangerous place in American culture where a good percentage of people aren’t distinguishing what is a real news source based on real reporting and fact-checking and only reinforcing pre-existing ideas they have,” Ms. Kleinman said.

That much is believable.

49 posted on 11/21/2016 8:10:37 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: TigerClaws

If this was all bull, I’m going to love this story even more.


50 posted on 11/21/2016 8:13:58 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: William Tell

+1


51 posted on 11/21/2016 8:14:32 PM PST by Bigg Red (To Thee, O Lord, I lift my soul. Thank you for saving our Republic.)
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To: TigerClaws

also— I do not know it this is true or not.... but I have been told that the leaked emails on wikileaks don’t all match up to the ones leaked by anon?

I have no idea if that is true— but if it is...someone is messing with something..and we should probably try to find out which ones are authentic...

like I said, I don’t know if that is true— but we need to get this RIGHT! We are FREEPERS- this is what we do


52 posted on 11/21/2016 8:14:47 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE thatEARTH....Archimedes)
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To: freedomlover

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>> “If the NYT says it is false, then it must be true.” <<

Absolutely!

If it is true, the Times will never print it.
.


53 posted on 11/21/2016 8:15:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: eeevil conservative

yes. It’s actually another artist:

Kim Noble’s art is not on display at Comet Ping Pong. The creepy mural on the walls of Comet is made by ARRINGTON DE DIONYSO. Here is some of his paintings: https://www.google.no/search?site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1103&bih=519&q=comet+ping+pong+art+&oq=comet+ping+pong+art+&gs_l=img.3...6945.10276.0.10984.20.10.0.10.10.0.112.706.8j1.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..1.15.762...0j0i19k1j0i30i19k1j0i5i30i19k1j0i8i30i19k1.5faUy9WSWa8#tbm=isch&q=arrington+de+dionyso

In this article you can see the mural on the wall of comet Ping Pong, scroll down a bit: https://therealstrategy.com/pizzagate-4chan-uncovered-sick-world-washingtons-occult-elite/#

I don’t think posting the images anyone who investigated has already seen and been disturbed by.

There are possibilities:

1. These are sick pedos involving D.C. elites who feel they are immune because of their powerful friends and flaunt their activities because of it.

2. They are just sick people, not criminals, with sick sense of humor and are trolling everyone.

I also believe it doesn’t help the cause of potentially exploited kids by lying about evidence that hasn’t been shown yet.

All we’ve seen is sick art, sick musicians, strange people, disturbing images, and peculiar (possibly coded, possibly just food) emails.

Being sick in the head, warped sense of humor, trolling a-holes = not criminal behavior.

Lot of smoke so far and no fire for Pizzagate as far as actual criminality.

Twittergate was on an entirely different level. I avoided clicking on any of the links for obvious reasons. Those that did said it was illegal criminal content and that may result in arrests in the days ahead.


54 posted on 11/21/2016 8:16:04 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

As long as the Won is in office, no gov agency is going to touch this with a ten foot ping pong paddle as far as starting a real investigation or discussing one.

At any rate, they won’t let it get out, even if some people are secretly working on it.

“Can neither confirm nor deny” an investigation tells me this is not over, no matter how much noise the NYT makes.


55 posted on 11/21/2016 8:16:23 PM PST by Califreak (All Alinsky All The Time)
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To: eeevil conservative

“The truth is, that the art is NOT Kim’s— it is on the internet under the “Virtual Gallery” of Kim Noble, but is is not HER art.... and there is no proof any of THAT art is in the Comet place of business...”


It IS her art. She has dozens of personalities. Ria Pratt’s work AKA Kim Noble is particularly disturbing. Kim was a victim of a pedophile ring


56 posted on 11/21/2016 8:16:56 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: eeevil conservative

Amen!


57 posted on 11/21/2016 8:17:56 PM PST by Bigg Red (To Thee, O Lord, I lift my soul. Thank you for saving our Republic.)
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To: TigerClaws
#PizzaGate is Trending! 25...The push against “fake news” is right here, IMO.
58 posted on 11/21/2016 8:17:56 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: RummyChick

btw, the Kim Noble part of this comes in under the promo poster used for a concert. It supposedly uses her art. Can’t remember the bands name. I think April 6th was the date.


59 posted on 11/21/2016 8:18:57 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: TigerClaws

I have never seen more psychotics and scammers with websites converge on one piece of paranoid idiocy before.

Wake up people. The scammers posting this BS are getting paid by advertisers for every time anyone goes to their webpage. This is a gold mine for them.


60 posted on 11/21/2016 8:19:11 PM PST by Strac6 (Sig Sauer, Pilatus, Mrs. Strac... all the fun things in my life are Swiss)
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