well— I am about to tick some folks off.. but— here I go anyway..
I spent about 12 hours yesterday looking into this #pizzagate thing.. so much so, that I missed the first 4 minutes of Walking Dead.
there is no doubt in my mind that there is some sick twisted crapt going on, and Podesta and his brother, and David Brock, and mister Comet ping pong are smack dab in the middle of it all...
HOWEVER- the problem I found is that most of the videos and twitter info, while well intended- get some of the details so flipping wrong, that a cursory look into the facts would send a serious person to dismiss this stuff...
The worst offending untruth is that pictures of the SICK art that is being posted everywhere on Twitter that CLAIMS is actually displayed in Comet Ping Pong— and the art is claimed to be that of Kim Noble—
The truth is, that the art is NOT Kim’s— it is on the internet under the “Virtual Gallery” of Kim Noble, but is is not HER art.... and there is no proof any of THAT art is in the Comet place of business...
there is a legitimate tie to be made in so many other ways with all the other information, but when this is the most visibly shocking way to get attention to this frickin mess- and it turns out to not be accurate- you have folks writing this whole thing off!!
THIS is FR— THIS IS WHAT WE DO!
Let’s NOT be lazy— LET’S GET THIS RIGHT!
I would suggest we start a thread totally dedicated to #pizzagate- and WE all work together to prove what is true, and correct the things that are relevant but not quite accurate in the way it is being thrown around on twitter...
We should just be FREEPERS!
yes. It’s actually another artist:
Kim Noble’s art is not on display at Comet Ping Pong. The creepy mural on the walls of Comet is made by ARRINGTON DE DIONYSO. Here is some of his paintings: https://www.google.no/search?site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1103&bih=519&q=comet+ping+pong+art+&oq=comet+ping+pong+art+&gs_l=img.3...6945.10276.0.10984.20.10.0.10.10.0.112.706.8j1.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..1.15.762...0j0i19k1j0i30i19k1j0i5i30i19k1j0i8i30i19k1.5faUy9WSWa8#tbm=isch&q=arrington+de+dionyso
In this article you can see the mural on the wall of comet Ping Pong, scroll down a bit: https://therealstrategy.com/pizzagate-4chan-uncovered-sick-world-washingtons-occult-elite/#
I don’t think posting the images anyone who investigated has already seen and been disturbed by.
There are possibilities:
1. These are sick pedos involving D.C. elites who feel they are immune because of their powerful friends and flaunt their activities because of it.
2. They are just sick people, not criminals, with sick sense of humor and are trolling everyone.
I also believe it doesn’t help the cause of potentially exploited kids by lying about evidence that hasn’t been shown yet.
All we’ve seen is sick art, sick musicians, strange people, disturbing images, and peculiar (possibly coded, possibly just food) emails.
Being sick in the head, warped sense of humor, trolling a-holes = not criminal behavior.
Lot of smoke so far and no fire for Pizzagate as far as actual criminality.
Twittergate was on an entirely different level. I avoided clicking on any of the links for obvious reasons. Those that did said it was illegal criminal content and that may result in arrests in the days ahead.
“The truth is, that the art is NOT Kim’s— it is on the internet under the “Virtual Gallery” of Kim Noble, but is is not HER art.... and there is no proof any of THAT art is in the Comet place of business...”
It IS her art. She has dozens of personalities. Ria Pratt’s work AKA Kim Noble is particularly disturbing. Kim was a victim of a pedophile ring
Amen!
I do not have the stomach to do this research and I no longer trust authorities to do the job....that leaves unreliable kids doing this which includes all the high emotion, tangents and wrong leads that go with youth. This had very little chance even if true of going anywhere because of the people involved....this will be an internet conspiracy theory, like the deaths from the Clinton mafia, never going anywhere.
Just because ONE freaky, insane off-shoot is discovered, it doesn't discount or dismiss related satanic or perverted activity. Often they are related by events or common people and players.
I believe ONE series of events legitimizes the extent of other "unbelievable" activities among the elites.
FWIW, there are adequate dots that are already connected regarding the Alefantis-Podestsa web.
I haven't seen anyone claim it was posted at the pizza place.
you have to understand there are lot of people trying to piece this together. Clearly some details can get mixed up.
Kim Nobel suffers from multiple personality disorder of the sort caused by early childhood trauma. She has a plethora of personalities and as she progressed in her recovery, art therapy was introduced.
Each of her personalities creates some sort of art, including photography and sculpture. The work product is strikingly different from personality to personality.
The work on her site is of ALL her personalities. Work by several of her alters (mostly the green & red figurals...you’ll recognize them)is seen in interior shots of the Tony Podesta home. Similar ones, maybe knock-offs are seen in the pizza store.
The key to all this may be (haven’t decided) the use of severe trauma to produce splitting of the psyche. Once the splits are accomplished, there is often no communication between the distinct personalities (fugue; amnesia). These mind fragments may then be brought forward via key phrases/triggers. Each is (supposedly) programmed for different functions.
Survivors abound. This has been documented as going on for nearly 70 years, possibly longer. See Project Monarch and MKULTRA, which will lead down and through various rabbit holes. It is exhaustive/exhausting and yes, difficult to believe. Very debilitating to view or consider.
Written journals (part of recovery therapy)exist that are produced by victims over the entire time span, from different countries & eras, who did not know each other, yet, they are strikingly similar in (very disturbing) content.
1) Prior to computers, this method was used to produce secure information storage and transport for various intelligence services.
2) Over time, this evolved into a blackmail scheme, as well as a way to traffic children/teens and contraband, in addition to intelligence.
3) Deliberate disinformation may have been programmed into the victims, precisely to discredit any memory retrieval.
4) Ongoing studies point to the use of this technique in entire societies via terror events as the traumatic incident, which renders thought processes chaotic enough to insert self-perpetuating beliefs into the collective psyche via media and entertainment.
5) Once the collective psyche is malleable enough, societal norms can be and perhaps are directed toward practices previously anathema: hence our sexualized, self-destructive global culture.
Caveat: Over the past 20 years, I have dipped into this subject from various angles for various research purposes. It is difficult to immerse yourself in these topics. It is nearly impossible to accept. It is debilitating. However, this recent spate of anecdotes and linked events/individuals has been gone over relentlessly by thousands of citizen researchers. If conspiracies are impossible/unlikely on the commission side, then by the same token, conspiracies are just as unlikely on the discovery side.
When the individual researchers “get things wrong”, others quickly point it out. The scope of distributive examination is proving, to me, at least, to be self-regulating as to hysterical connections that are in error.
In every instance, mainstream authorities simply declare there is nothing to it, without real debunking. In every instance, authorities with questionable past behavior, some of it ending in convictions, are the ones declaring the allegations false.
Recently, VIP pedorings have been busted in UK and Australia. Past rings have been covered up with minor indictments/convictions/deaths of principles in the US, going back 40+ years. There are severe allegations and some evidence of similar acts in Belgium. Every one of these instances involves VIPs.
Conclusion: there is *something* to all this. Strike out the dead ends and errors and there is plenty of incriminating and internally consistent evidence left.