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IS THERE ROOM IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR THOSE WHO DON’T BELIEVE ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE?
Frontpage Mag ^ | 15 August 2016 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 08/16/2016 12:40:06 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan

If Msgr. Swetland is correct, and it is Church teaching that all Catholics must accept that Islam is a religion of peace, then the Catholic hierarchy will have demonstrated that it does not have the authority or reliability in discerning and transmitting the truth that it claims to have; Papal claims to speak in the name of Christ will be eviscerated; and the Catholic Church as a whole exposed as a fraud.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 08/16/2016 12:40:07 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
Nothing in Catholic teaching says how someone has to feel about Islam, so this article is kind of deceptive.

On the other hand, Catholicism is not Islam. So the effort by some to make Catholicism (or Christianity) into Islam is extremely misguided.

2 posted on 08/16/2016 12:50:06 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Arthur McGowan

If I disagree will you lash me to a post and set fire to me?

Because that is what ISIS is doing as I type this pithy reply.


3 posted on 08/16/2016 1:27:14 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Arthur McGowan

Islam is diametrically opposed to Christianity. Muslims deny Jesus is the Christ, the divine Son of God.

1 John 2:22 “Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.”

It’s as simple as that.


4 posted on 08/16/2016 1:27:18 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Todays catholic Hierarchy stance about islam as NOTHING TO DO with FAITH and DOGMA .

The core catholic and christian FAITH is summarized in the CREDO .

Many catholics disagree about iSSlam with a part ( main ? ) of their hierarchy ....
One big problem in the catholic church today is the way bishops ( and there is a lot of questions about how the last pope was elected and the way it occured ) ;
Political correctness seems to be a criteria of selection.

It is true that the catholic church is in jeopardy but there are also signs of hope ( eastern european church , Russia , Asia ...)


5 posted on 08/16/2016 1:30:32 AM PDT by Ulysse (h)
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To: CitizenUSA
Islam is diametrically opposed to Christianity.

Islam advocates murder in its teachings.
6 posted on 08/16/2016 1:36:59 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

I think its all about Ba-hai


7 posted on 08/16/2016 1:40:24 AM PDT by Therapsid (eagan)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Is there room in the Catholic Church for both you and il Papa?
8 posted on 08/16/2016 1:46:23 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-15/people-just-hate-us-local-muslims-demand-answers-after-hispanic-mans-arrest-ny-imam-


9 posted on 08/16/2016 1:47:50 AM PDT by Therapsid (eagan)
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To: Therapsid

We live in the most dangerous time since Adolf sniffed Eva’s panties.


10 posted on 08/16/2016 1:50:44 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Arthur McGowan

The five oldest and most trusted Islamic sources don’t portray Muhammad as a great and godly man. They confirm that he was a thief, liar, assassin, mass murderer, terrorist, warmonger, and an unrestrained sexual pervert engaged in pedophilia, incest, and rape. He authorized deception, assassinations, torture, slavery, and genocide. He was a pirate, not a prophet. According to the Hadith and the Qur’an, Muhammad and his henchmen plundered their way to power and prosperity.....


11 posted on 08/16/2016 2:15:09 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: cynwoody; Ulysse

Is there room in the Catholic Church for both you and il Papa?

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No.

That is why the faithful do (or eventually will) reject the man presently dressing in papal garments, until such time as a true Catholic is elevated to the true papacy (by the magnificent grace of God).

(See www.novusordowatch.org/about.htm)


12 posted on 08/16/2016 2:21:37 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: nickcarraway

Jesus is subservient in the Koran, is he not?

Right there you know Jesus would think the only room for them was to convert them.

With the things you’ve told me you’ve done, you should worry more about your own soul.

It ain’t looking good.


13 posted on 08/16/2016 2:27:47 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: SpaceBar

Christianity teaches sacrifice of self for others. Islam teaches sacrifice of others for self.


14 posted on 08/16/2016 2:40:52 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: SpaceBar

>>Islam advocates murder in its teachings.

But you do know the real reason why Islam is diametrically opposed to Christianity, right?

All arguments on this subject are a distraction except for one: Islam believes the Jesus Christ is not God. They believe that anyone who says that he is God is a blasphemer.

When debating Islam, stick to that one point and don’t let it go. Don’t let it become an “agree to disagree” thing. Just keep hammering them with “Is Jesus Christ God?”

When they finally blurt out “NO!”, then you know that we do not worship the same God. The Roman Church should know that.


15 posted on 08/16/2016 3:49:52 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: SpaceBar

Lashing people to posts and burning them alive..... Sounds familiar. Oh yeah The Church did that till the 1800s, to those that disagreed with them.


16 posted on 08/16/2016 3:50:58 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,)
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To: Arthur McGowan

What Luther said.


17 posted on 08/16/2016 3:59:51 AM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Lashing people to posts and burning them alive..... Sounds familiar. Oh yeah The Church did that till the 1800s, to those that disagreed with them.

Actually, if you read the proceedings of the Inquisition, you'll see this phrase repeatedly when a person was found guilty: "and he was handed over the secular arm to be burned."

Heresy was a capital crime according to the state. The Church just handled the fact-finding part of the trial, not the sentence.

18 posted on 08/16/2016 4:00:56 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Arthur McGowan

Catholic leadership from the Vatican on down seems to have gone berserk.


19 posted on 08/16/2016 4:11:24 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Arthur McGowan; Mark17
The Catholic church is a psychological mess !

They claim they are the ONLY true church, but allows almost EVERY other "religion" to be acceptable / accepted ... with no effort to convert those allowed "religions"

20 posted on 08/16/2016 4:13:16 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true ... and it pisses people off)
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