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Donald Trump says he'd support $10 minimum wage [but let the states make the deal]
CNN ^ | 7/27/2016 | Tom Kludt

Posted on 07/27/2016 11:29:41 AM PDT by Kevin C

Donald Trump said Tuesday he would support raising the federal minimum wage to $10 an hour, a departure from his previous assertion that wages are "too high."

The Republican presidential nominee was pressed to provide a specific number by Fox News anchor Bill O'Reilly, who said, "there has to be a federal minimum wage."

Trump initially dismissed that suggestion.

"There doesn't have to be," Trump said. "I would leave it and raise it somewhat. You need to help people. I know it's not very Republican to say."

"Ten bucks?" O'Reilly asked.

"I would say 10. I would say 10," Trump agreed. "But with the understanding that somebody like me is going to bring back jobs. I don't want people to be in that $10 category for very long. But the thing is, Bill, let the states make the deal."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; minimumwage; trump; trumpeconomy
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To: NorthMountain

You are confusing spending and revenue. Totally different issues. Try to separate them so you can talk sanely about the them.


81 posted on 07/27/2016 12:16:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bert

No, the condition is called “No jobs available”.


82 posted on 07/27/2016 12:17:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kevin C

It’s pretty much there now in most cases.
Either states have raised it, or businesses have found they have to pay more to hire someone who is slightly less brain dead.


83 posted on 07/27/2016 12:19:10 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dfwgator

Ok..... I’ll think on that

Off the top of my head, a wage is payment for work. If there is no work, there can be no wage.

If one works for $0 wage he is either a volunteer or a slave earning nothing for the time or labor


84 posted on 07/27/2016 12:26:55 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: Kevin C

If we can’t (as a nation) even have an honest discussion about minimum wage, WTH!? Minimum wage was never intended to support a family... entry-level position to get your foot in the door and prove yourself. Even so, the earned income tax credit was implemented in 1975 and has evolved over the years to supplement the income of low-wage earners with dependents. So, if the argument is that a single person with no dependents can’t get by on minimum wage, the response should be “work harder, learn a valuable skill.” If the argument is one cannot support a family on a full-time minimum wage job, one needs to consider EITC as well... in which case, the ‘minimum wage plus EITC’ hourly rate is basically at its (constant dollar) historical average, so why is it such a pressing issue now? The answer is because: 1) the economy stinks, there are fewer opportunities to climb the ranks within stagnant/downsizing companies and it is more an more difficult to start or run a small company with over-regulation, 2) the education system is broken... too few people with the necessary skills to start their own small business even if regulations weren’t so burdensome, and 3) supply outpacing demand for low-skill jobs due to high levels of immigration (legal and illegal)... if you don’t like your minimum wage job, there are a dozen behind you waiting to take your spot. It is no longer enough to be punctual, respectful and dependable to climb out of a minimum wage position... too many people eager for the same opportunity and too little growth in the economy to foster widespread upward mobility.

A cynic might think the minimum wage issue is an illegal immigration issue since they can’t claim EIC.


85 posted on 07/27/2016 12:31:49 PM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: sagar
Thank you. If it is cheaper to hire an illegal alien because the employer doesn't want to deal with Social Security, unemployment comp., etc. then it's still cheaper to hire an illegal regardless of the minimum wage.
86 posted on 07/27/2016 12:42:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: circlecity

Absolutely.

$15 an hour in New York City is peanuts. It’s a 30,000 a year income in a full time job of 40 hours a week, 2000 a year.

In the rural Midwest it is almost a marginally livable income. It is liveable for a frugal person.

Another issue is whether we’re talking part-time job or full-time job. A 10 hour a week job might get someone started, but it won’t keep them going.

In the long run, the issue is monthly income.


87 posted on 07/27/2016 12:42:53 PM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: sagar

While I agree with you, that the minimum wage was and is a terrible policy, campaigning against it now is not a strategy.

I think Trump said just enough to put the minimum wage, as a wedge issue, away.


88 posted on 07/27/2016 12:51:43 PM PDT by Jay Thomas
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To: bassmaner

That’s the real minimum wage anyway, regardless of what laws are passed. Those people whose labor is worth less than the legally mandated minimum wage will make the real minimum wage.


89 posted on 07/27/2016 1:02:17 PM PDT by stremba
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To: central_va
I am confusing nothing. You are trying to cover excessive, unauthorized, unsustainable spending by increasing revenue. The problem is not revenue (or lack thereof), the problem is unconstitutional spending.

Get the spending under control, then come back and talk to me about revenue.

90 posted on 07/27/2016 1:09:39 PM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: NorthMountain

I never said anything about voting for Tom Hoefling I mearly enjoyed your post as a voice of Sanity and truth.


91 posted on 07/27/2016 1:13:52 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade ( America's Party! Tom Hoefling/Steve Schulin 2016)
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To: sagar

Yes, we’ve heard that refrain for years.


92 posted on 07/27/2016 1:17:04 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: forgotten man

Trump is bending on some of these hot topics favored by the Libs. His escape is his repeated statement that it is a local issue. Let’s see how it develops and focus on larger issues such as the terrorist invasion championed by Hillary, Kaine and even Paul Ryan.


93 posted on 07/27/2016 1:20:18 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: sagar

So simple, I am shocked you did not figure out why $10.
It is the amount required to disqualify a single person from welfare benefits in most states.

Would you prefer if the person is given welfare, food stamps, rent subsidy, heat subsidy, and other free stuff and not have to drag his/her butt to work every day?


94 posted on 07/27/2016 1:20:44 PM PDT by entropy12 (Almost all career politicians exist because of their ultra rich donors pushing cheap labor express.)
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To: central_va; All

Yes. Trump sees this as a distraction from bigger issues such national security, employment, taxes, the economy, military, the VA, etc.


95 posted on 07/27/2016 1:22:18 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Genoa
I view this as a brilliant weaselout. He didn't commit to a Federal Minimum Wage at this level; he said let the states decide.

I don't think HClinton will let him get away with a statement like this at a debate, but this will do for now.

96 posted on 07/27/2016 1:24:10 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Muslims kill people because they're sick of being called violent! They're violent over Islamophobia!)
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To: entropy12

“So simple, I am shocked you did not figure out why $10.
It is the amount required to disqualify a single person from welfare benefits in most states.”

It is “the amount required” NOW, but when $10 minimum wage passes, you can get your democrat that the “amount required to disqualify for a single person from welfare benefits” will RISE to account for the minimum wage. It is pure economics that the minimum wage sets the FLOOR! How hard is it to understand? If “we” are for $10 minimum wage, we might as well be for $15, because in 2 years, it will be $15. Then, it will be $30 in the next 5 years.


97 posted on 07/27/2016 1:24:39 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar

DO not lose sleep over this. Under POTUS Trump, it is not gonna happen, which will hurt business. Even the democrats will not RAISE earnings limit to qualify for welfare. If anything they will lower it! Of course Under POTUS Hillary, all bets are off.


98 posted on 07/27/2016 1:28:37 PM PDT by entropy12 (Almost all career politicians exist because of their ultra rich donors pushing cheap labor express.)
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To: entropy12
" Even the democrats will not RAISE earnings limit to qualify for welfare."


99 posted on 07/27/2016 1:33:11 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar
“Seriously, how would $15/hr kill the cheap labor? By making labor expensive? It just means that NOBODY would be hiring legal labor, because the illegals would still be working for far below minimum wage. THINK!”

But, we have been told by corporatists that raising the minimum wage would kill jobs. If what you are saying is true than that obviously would not happen. Some fields like construction some unscrupulous contractors will hire and keep them off the books. Bur, it would be a real chore for others. Some in the fast food are fighting high minimum wages by setting up IT order takers. Obviously those jobs are going away.

100 posted on 07/27/2016 2:06:13 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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