Posted on 05/30/2016 3:54:06 AM PDT by Cronos
..About 70 of the 285 final round competitors in this year's bee had South Asian names.
Apart from winning the last nine spelling bees in the US, Indian-American children have also won the last five National Geographic Bees ,which tests the geographic knowledge of millions of American children. From 2005, the winning rate of Indian-origin children in these two competitions has been well over 80%.
But what explains this extraordinary success by a group that makes up less than one percent of America's school-age population?
...In academic competitions, especially those focused on math or science, Indian-American youngsters do very well - nowhere near as spectacularly as in the spelling and geography bees, but at five to 20 times the rate of their population size.
These competitions include the Siemens Science Competition, Intel Science Talent Search, Mathcounts, and US Presidential, Rhodes, Truman, Churchill, and Marshall Scholarships.
But in other fields like music and athletics, Indian-Americans either barely hold their own or are non-existent at the top level.
..For example, in the 2013 All-National Honor Ensemble, 45% of the musicians in orchestra and 13% in the band were Asian-Americans, but just 2 and 1%, respectively, were Indian-American.
In athletics and team sports, Indian-Americans actively participate in high school but are virtually absent at college level and in professional sports.
No one of Indian origin (with a very minor Indo-Canadian exception) has ever played in any professional sports league: American football, baseball, basketball, or ice hockey.
There is also no one in the lists of emerging talent, for example, the top 100 high school prospects in baseball.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
When my son was about 8, he came crying saying his head was crammed so full of school lessons and information he was afraid his head was about to explode.
He just got his M.B.A.
Edumacation. When the family pushes edumacation it works.
“Too bad Hispanics are going the ghetto grievance route.”
Not the ones that I work with...they do try hard. And the handful of blacks that I worked with also - but then they were raised by two parents that WHOOPED the hell out of them (to use their terminology) when they were kids, if they got out of line.
Much of the problem for blacks is that there just aren’t that many of those families left, and not to mention that the liberals will outlaw spanking the moment they get enough power to do so.
“Must be the Indian equivalent of the Chinese Tiger Mom...Disciplining ones children is considered child abuse in America.”
I didn’t agree with her on the piano and violin - I think they’re a waste of time. And in particular, with her, not letting your kids use the bathroom during practice is abusive in my book, at least (unless their are mitigating circumstances, like sitting on the throne for 45 minutes, as my kids tried to get away with, at times).
But I do agree with virtually all of her other stuff, and it should be noted that her kids did great educationally, and have absolutely no animosity towards their parents - exactly the same outcome with my kids, who were raised in a very similar way.
The H-1B visa program skims off the creme of the creme of the Indian population. We get high IQ indentured servants and India gets the brain drain. A globalists dream. The offspring of this indentured lot are genetically smarter than the average Indain.
6.) Affection. Indian parents don't outwardly show affection to their children the way westerners tend to do. Affection is usually reserved as a compliment or reward for a job well done, such as returning home with good grades or obtaining a goal. It's not that Indian children don't know their parents love them; they do...the display of affection is a treat.
Morning gals, right up your alley...and take a look at my post, above.
“Studying math was a family hobby.”
One of my favorite stories of all time, this Razmataz guy from India that shook the mathematical world...but sadly died way too young. Incredible story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan
It’s still memory. Now, if the kids had to use the word correctly in a sentence, that would require intelligence.
Also, Indians and Chinese seem reasonably good (not spectacular) at some sports
What good would it do? Hmmm... I can't think of any good.
“They probably learned to spell using phonics.”
That is the must USELESS comment on this thread. Of course they learned phonics - and WITHOUT SIGHT WORDS - otherwise they wouldn’t know how to spell.
(just having some fun, thanks for pointing it out - even though it will pass through both ears of most parents here)
“Indian parents don’t outwardly show affection”
Yea, that does have the effect of the kids constantly trying to earn the affection of their parents...such as by studying, and it does work.
We didn’t quite do that, our kids knew they were loved and we weren’t shy about telling them. But when the boys wanted to play with their toys, rather than learning phonics...the decibel level in our household increased markedly.
Hmmmm... Different alphabet?
Alternatively when I lived in the UK I saw many native white underclass who had the same "ghetto culture" and the same spectacular underachievement
I had the nuns who would take the pointer to the back of one’s heads if kids weren’t paying attention....it tended to focus your attention. Making you put out your hands so they could strike the knuckles was another trick. That however didn’t help my penmanship, which to this day is atrocious. Thank God for keyboards. Catholic school discipline got me a lot further than the public schools in my neighborhood ever could.
Mom was a help early on. But too ignorant herself to be much help after 5th grade with anything. Dad didn’t help....nor could he. He was only there for the severe discipline. Which kept me an honest citizen for the most part.
In regards music, it depends on how far you go, at what ages, and in what form. Learning an instrument before about age 7 makes structural differences in the brain...though whether that is overall good or bad, I can’t say.
Uh....one look at the author’s name gives a clue.
They are so used to long, anti-phonetic names, they must learn complex spellings.
“Learning an instrument before about age 7 makes structural differences in the brain...though whether that is overall good or bad, I cant say.”
They were saying that playing piano helps kids learn math - the question is whether that is true, or whether it’s the piano lobby speaking.
I only for my kids that music didn’t make a damn bit of difference - we didn’t bother, and they did great anyway. But if they enjoy it, have at it.
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