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Why do Indian-Americans win spelling bee contests?
BBC ^ | 30 May 2016 | Sanjoy Chakravorthy

Posted on 05/30/2016 3:54:06 AM PDT by Cronos

..About 70 of the 285 final round competitors in this year's bee had South Asian names.

Apart from winning the last nine spelling bees in the US, Indian-American children have also won the last five National Geographic Bees ,which tests the geographic knowledge of millions of American children. From 2005, the winning rate of Indian-origin children in these two competitions has been well over 80%.

But what explains this extraordinary success by a group that makes up less than one percent of America's school-age population?

...In academic competitions, especially those focused on math or science, Indian-American youngsters do very well - nowhere near as spectacularly as in the spelling and geography bees, but at five to 20 times the rate of their population size.

These competitions include the Siemens Science Competition, Intel Science Talent Search, Mathcounts, and US Presidential, Rhodes, Truman, Churchill, and Marshall Scholarships.

But in other fields like music and athletics, Indian-Americans either barely hold their own or are non-existent at the top level.

..For example, in the 2013 All-National Honor Ensemble, 45% of the musicians in orchestra and 13% in the band were Asian-Americans, but just 2 and 1%, respectively, were Indian-American.

In athletics and team sports, Indian-Americans actively participate in high school but are virtually absent at college level and in professional sports.

No one of Indian origin (with a very minor Indo-Canadian exception) has ever played in any professional sports league: American football, baseball, basketball, or ice hockey.

There is also no one in the lists of emerging talent, for example, the top 100 high school prospects in baseball.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; india; newyork; trump
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To: CitizenUSA; ClearCase_guy
Get rid of quotas and extra efforts to recruit people into areas that they aren’t necessarily interested or talented in, and individuals will go as far as their own skills take them.

I agree. However, it would be interesting, just for its own sake, to know whether achievement in spelling bees reflects an aptitude for, say, visual recognition, or whether it's strictly effort, driven by family pressure to achieve in this particular way.

When I was a spelling bee competitor (early 1980s) the winners tended to be Korean, which leads me to believe that effort is it, rather than genetics at the ethnic-group level. Individuals, on the other hand ... comparing Indian spelling-bee winners with Indian robotics-competition winners could be interesting.

21 posted on 05/30/2016 4:30:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("We like us the way we are. That makes us real, true friends." ~ The Undead Thread)
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To: Westbrook

I’ve been told that if you go to any college library on a Friday or Saturday night, most of the faces you see will be from India and Southeast Asia.


22 posted on 05/30/2016 4:34:00 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Cronos

Smart people tend to respect disciplines that involve intelligence—and to believe in their ability to do well in them.


23 posted on 05/30/2016 4:36:47 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ctdonath2
Consider the names. Say, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon. You’d get good at spelling too.

bump

24 posted on 05/30/2016 4:38:17 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Cronos

Oh, and rote learning, discipline, and competition have traditionally been critical to academic and professional success in their home lands as well.


25 posted on 05/30/2016 4:39:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cronos

The two Pittsburgh Pirates guys. The million-dollar arms.


26 posted on 05/30/2016 4:39:30 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Cronos

Academic discipline in the HOME.


27 posted on 05/30/2016 4:39:33 AM PDT by gasport (Live and Let Live)
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To: ctdonath2

Ha ha.


28 posted on 05/30/2016 4:39:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: C19fan

Do you think it is just coincidence that those groups have gone in those directions?


29 posted on 05/30/2016 4:41:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cronos

I sense a case of disparate impact here. Somebody call the DOJ.


30 posted on 05/30/2016 4:41:59 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Tax-chick

Intelligence and memory tend to be very closely related:

http://trendingsideways.com/index.php/what-does-memory-have-to-do-with-intelligence/


31 posted on 05/30/2016 4:43:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cronos

I think Indian families focus on the importance of academics, and that’s a good thing.

As for spelling bees, the truth is that they require no intelligence, creativity, or original thinking. They’re primarily contests of memorization, discipline, and endurance. All three can be trained with minimal investment. Spelling contests are comparatively easy, provided the person has the basic tools and develops then.


32 posted on 05/30/2016 4:49:12 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: ctdonath2

That was my first thought just from reading the headline.


33 posted on 05/30/2016 4:54:30 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: Cronos

Must be the Indian equivalent of the Chinese Tiger Mom.

Disciplining ones children is considered child abuse in America.


34 posted on 05/30/2016 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ctdonath2
Say, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon.

Or Samir Nagheenanajar.

35 posted on 05/30/2016 5:10:58 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Call Biden too. Somewhere in Delaware a Dunkin Donuts is missing its proprietor.


36 posted on 05/30/2016 5:13:00 AM PDT by ameribbean expat (When the going gets weird, the weird go professional.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
it's history and culture that defines -- the groups that for centuries saw knowledge as a way to succeed are the ones that are the brainiest:

And then there are groups where you had to be physically strong and athletic to succeed:

Even if you narrow this to just European-origin peoples you would find that Germanics and Nordics are stronger than Italians or GReeks

37 posted on 05/30/2016 5:13:05 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: ctdonath2
Consider the names.

Then why don't Greeks win more spelling bees?

38 posted on 05/30/2016 5:14:59 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Cronos
2016 NatGeo Geography Bee.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/2016/05/25/geo-bee/01-national-geographic-bee-winner.ngsversion.1464199898023.jpg

39 posted on 05/30/2016 5:16:31 AM PDT by Daffynition ("We have the fight of our lives coming up to save our nation!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Alberta's Child
I would be interested to see a study of spelling bee winners over the last few decades -- just to see what they had accomplished later in life.

Here's one:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/hinsdale/news/ct-dhd-1985-spelling-champion-20150520-story.html

40 posted on 05/30/2016 5:17:21 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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