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Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest
AssociatedPress ^ | May 5, 2016, 8:31 PM ET | Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

Posted on 05/06/2016 9:57:00 PM PDT by LucyT

Hawaii's former health director who died after a plane she was traveling in crashed into the ocean was wearing an infant life vest and the pilot didn't give a safety briefing before takeoff, according to details in a National Transportation Safety Board report.

An autopsy determined Loretta Fuddy died of an irregular heartbeat from hyperventilating after she exited the plane, which landed in choppy water off the island of Molokai. The pilot and seven other passengers on the 2013 Makani Kai Air flight survived.

Pilot Clyde Kawasaki reported to the NTSB that he heard a loud bang, followed by an immediate loss of engine power soon after the single-engine Cessna took off from Molokai, headed for Honolulu.

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: butterdezillion; conspiracy; fuddy; getreal; jakartacide; lol; makanikaiair; nairobicide; naturalborncitizen; ntsb; obamacolb; planecrash; rx; seriesly; tinfoilhat; zot
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To: WildHighlander57; 4Zoltan; LucyT; Fred Nerks; butterdezillion; rodguy911; little jeremiah
In picture 11 there above, just why would JK's head be in front of only the left 1/4 of the headrest? If his body took up, yea--filled to overflowing--both sides of the seat, to the armrests and beyond, why is the spider tattoo guy so clearly hugging the left side of that seat? Hmmmmm?

And of course, since that is the case, how is that when the camera slides over to the right, there's Dolliana sitting vertically, exhibiting no motion, hugging the right edge of that same seat? Hmmm?

301 posted on 08/23/2016 9:15:02 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: bgill
No, it's in Universal Coordinated Time, which was ten hours in advance of Hawaii Standard Time (HST). Greenwich Mean Time at the Prime Meridian was chosen as the world's time standard, and all air and marine traffic knows to work with that.

4:22:30pm HST would have been written 162230, but add 10 hours to the Prime Meridian and one gets 262230 hours, modulo 24, yielding 022230 on Dec. 12 (the next day). In that transcript, it got translated for humans "somewhat" as 2:22:30. Thanks for asking!

302 posted on 08/23/2016 9:25:17 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx; WildHighlander57; Fred Nerks
"why is the spider tattoo guy so clearly hugging the left side of that seat? Hmmmmm?"

For the same reasons that Rosa Key, Loretta Fuddy and Marilyn Briley are clearly hugging the aisle side of the seats.

The seats are very narrow. Any manikin next to Jacob Key would have to be either in the isle or half way up the window. No other options.

Maybe every passenger had a manikin sitting next to them. That's it there were only animatronic mannequins on the plane. No real people.


303 posted on 08/23/2016 10:15:23 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: rx; 4Zoltan; LucyT; Fred Nerks; butterdezillion; rodguy911; little jeremiah

In #11, Mr Briley’s shoulder and arm, and Yamamoto’s arm and leg, overhang the seat left sides the same amount as Mr Key’s arm.

Also seen in cabin view:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=117#117

Briley and Yamamoto didn’t have anything next to them to their right.

And neither did Mr Key.


304 posted on 08/23/2016 10:39:18 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: 4Zoltan; LucyT; Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; butterdezillion
Nice, deformed, wide-angle lens shot!

That "might" be interesting if it were a picture of the inside of the Cessna Grand Caravan that crashed off Kalaupapa, but since it isn't, what you're doing must clearly be labeled "trying to deceive!" Surely you could have found some plane that at least had headrests!

What you've shown might as well be the inside of a subway car, or a Disney ride, or a Yugo.

Whatever possessed you to try to deceive us all this way? is that just the way you all do it at DU?

This picture is of the inside of N687MA. Look at those wide seats!

305 posted on 08/23/2016 10:48:28 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: 4Zoltan
I think most here will see the big difference between your deceptive picture with snarky commentary and an actual picture of the cabin interior of N687MA, which this is:

Get a load of the business class, wide-seat comfort!
306 posted on 08/23/2016 12:21:17 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: All

Back...and to the left....

Back....and to the left.....

Back....and to the left....


307 posted on 08/23/2016 12:23:32 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: rx; WildHighlander57; Fred Nerks

All Grand Caravans are exactly the same width in the cabins aft of the pilots seats - 5.2 ft. And FAA aisle-width requirement for a 208 configured for 9 passengers is a minimum of 12”.

You simply declaring the seats are wide is the same as you declaring the blur over Jake Key’s shoulder can only be a manikin. Nonsense.


308 posted on 08/23/2016 12:39:00 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: FourtySeven

Good one.


309 posted on 08/23/2016 12:44:05 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: little jeremiah; WildHighlander57; stephenjohnbanker; SatinDoll; HiTech RedNeck; SE Mom; ...
Unbiased people will realize your picture--poorly chosen and pressed to the hilt, was meant to leave an impression that misrepresented facts.

What's nonsense is your beating one sliver of evidence as if it were a dead horse when there's copious other supporting evidence as well, as shown in post #298, regarding Dolliana.   All that you've left untouched, though you have whipped out that technical term, 'blur', which more correctly applies to your own arguments than mine. What plausible alternative do you have for what that "blur" is?

You've effectively countered nothing in the other twenty or so graphics and background I've put up, all of which show this event to be an incredibly brazen conspiracy, involving some (undeservedly) well-reputed government groups and complicit co-conspirators.

The "theory" about these events includes several proven facts that show many to have engaged in fraud and cost others (including taxpayers) scores of millions of dollars!

You're a one-trick pony and you play it to the hilt, ignoring everything else. The preponderance of the evidence should dozens of posts ago have suggested you're playing for the guilty, losing team, but I guess you knew that and would be cleave to them, come what may.

The incident was a well-planned, intricate   H O A X   in which there was no catastrophic engine failure and in which Ms Fuddy didn't die--among other copious falsehoods and misrepresentations, for which people should be indicted for lying to federal officials, fired from their government jobs (for those in government, that weren't simply following lawful orders) and go to jail once they're judged guilty by a court!

310 posted on 08/23/2016 1:31:27 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx; WildHighlander57
...You've effectively countered nothing in the other twenty or so graphics and background I've put up, all of which show this event to be an incredibly brazen conspiracy, involving some (undeservedly) well-reputed government groups and complicit co-conspirators.

All WH57 has done as far as I can see is shown that he can't find the dummy, and as a consequence, neither can I. If you are planning to make this stick, you'll have to convince.

311 posted on 08/23/2016 3:00:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: rx
...You're a one-trick pony and you play it to the hilt, ignoring everything else. The preponderance of the evidence should dozens of posts ago have suggested you're playing for the guilty, losing team, but I guess you knew that and would be cleave to them, come what may...

I do resent that. Just because you haven't been able to convince everyone there's a dummy there, doesn't make them guilty of anything.

Your tactics are beginning to glare. Like the sunlight shining on Key's cap and hair.

312 posted on 08/23/2016 3:45:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: rx; WildHighlander57; Fred Nerks

“...all of which show this event to be an incredibly brazen conspiracy, involving some (undeservedly) well-reputed government groups and complicit co-conspirators.”

Like:
All the passengers and pilot on the Cessna.
Coast Guard Rescue swimmers and helicopter pilots and other unknown at this time personnel.
Maui Fire Rescue crews
Maui police Department
Molokai Hospital personnel
Priest who gave Fuddy last rites
Ambulance Personnel
Medical Examiner
All the people who attended Fuddy’s open casket funeral
The two Hawaiian television stations which shot video of Fuddy’s open casket funeral
Marine salvage crews who recovered the plane.
FAA and NTSB investigators
Pratt and Whitney

and that doesn’t include all the anonymous ninja frogmen at the crash site.

Okay that last one is just made up.


313 posted on 08/23/2016 4:08:31 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: WildHighlander57

I’ll ask it again. Maybe one of these days you’ll actually answer the question: What happened to Jake’s ponytail? Why is there not straight black hair sticking down below the bottom of his cap any more, like there was when we saw him on the aisle side of the neckrest?

Unless there’s a shot of the whole seat we would not expect to see 2 heads.

And of course, everybody has just ignored the hand hanging down that could not be Jake, Puentes, or Rosa...


314 posted on 08/23/2016 4:28:34 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: 4Zoltan
Filmed in glorious technicolour with a cast of thousands...

Buried in an open coffin, and nobody noticed she was a dummy...

Sorry butter, I know this is your image, but the idea that these people attended a funeral for a plastic replica of the Hawaii Director of Health just doesn't convince me the woman is still alive living somewhere in luxury with a new face and slim body. It's preposterous. Imo, if that engine was tampered with, they were all meant to die.

315 posted on 08/23/2016 4:42:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: butterdezillion

What happned to Jake's pony tail...why is there not straight black hair sticking down below the bottom of his cap anymore...?

A couple of days after the event, he was interviewed and photographed in the street. His long hair is almost ginger, it's visible in the photograph. You can see the same when you look at him sitting on the wing of the aircraft. The hair close to his head is dark, what hangs down is a different colour. I take it that on the aircraft, he has bunched his hair up under his cap, and it's the ends that are showing. Be that as it may, when you come down to proving your case by the colour of one person's hair in shade and in bright sunlight, and the impossible to locate hand that appears to be floating out of nowhere...you can't, and you can't allow your sidekick, to infer we are in collusion with criminals, fools or blind. Take a deep breath and ask yourself, why are you both so exasperated? Is it because you know you haven't put up a convincing argument? So let me ask you, how far do you think sticks and stones will get you?

Show us the dummy. Not just Key's hair and cap, and not just a hand that we cannot see what or who it is attached to.

316 posted on 08/23/2016 4:55:04 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: butterdezillion

Nothing unusual about Jacob Key's hair, it's simply dark at the roots and lighter at the ends, as the above image, and the photograph taken in the street, shows.

317 posted on 08/23/2016 5:00:11 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
Apparently there was at least one stowaway on board.


318 posted on 08/23/2016 5:15:35 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

I’ve been guilty of a fair amount of speculation myself over time, and been severely chastised for it. Each time, I’ve done my best to explain my reasons and provide what evidence I could get my hands on.
I know how frustrating it is, when no one can see what I think I can see.
But I have never been guilty of creating graphics from bits and pieces of disjointed visuals and then badgering and harassing the audience by telling them they are blind idiots, or criminal conspirators.

Our erstwhile FRiends are going to have to do what we ask. It’s that simple.
Show whose body the hand is attached to.
Show the dummy sitting next to Jacob Key.

And I’ll take it as a bonus if I’m shown the dummy exiting the aircraft. Maybe it went down when the plane sank and dummy and Elvis are down there sleeping with the fishes...


319 posted on 08/23/2016 5:34:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
Look at all the hair around Jake's ear. It goes down to a ponytail: Then look at the differently-shaped, tight-fitting hat (showing no bulge for a ponytail) with no black hair but reddish hair at the nape (not at the ends of the hair, but where the hair attaches to the scalp) It's not the same hat and not the same hair. And why would Jake, in the middle of a catastrophe where they claimed they expected to die, decide to tuck his ponytail under his hat? What would be the purpose of that? And where's your evidence to suggest that he did? Show me the video footage where his arms reach up to tuck his hair in.
320 posted on 08/23/2016 7:06:02 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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